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Originally posted by zatara
The thing that I think is obvious in this whole chemtrail busines is the fact that not all leaders of governments and decision making people in governments are corrupt and that they must have a very good reason to keep us out of the chemtrail loop.
(emphasis added)
Originally posted by zatara
Because there is little tangible evidence to proof chemtrails are a fact, this thread is not for chemtrail debunkers or misplaced funny people. If you have evidence that chemtrails are the imagination of confused people please start your own thread just about that.
In some circumstances it can be safely assumed that if a certain event had occurred, evidence of it could be discovered by qualified investigators. In such circumstances it is perfectly reasonable to take the absence of proof of its occurrence as positive proof of its non-occurrence.
reply to post by zatara
The reason for silence is in my opinion because there is a serious downside to it. A down-side that can cause civil unrest and force the governments to stop or to delay the "chemtrail project", There is a time-table to keep which can not be interupted because of debate and legislative delays. Stopping or indefinite delay can or will result in serious consequences for the entire planet.
Originally posted by jlm912
reply to post by ProudBird and post by Aloysius the Gaul
(emphasis added)
Originally posted by zatara
Because there is little tangible evidence to proof chemtrails are a fact, this thread is not for chemtrail debunkers or misplaced funny people. If you have evidence that chemtrails are the imagination of confused people please start your own thread just about that.
Boy, you guys are quick to try to shoot down these threads, huh? If you think that the "believers" of "chemtrails" are a bunch of misguided idiots, then are you really confident that your criticism will magically change them? Why do you bother?
Originally posted by HIWATT
Originally posted by jlm912
reply to post by ProudBird and post by Aloysius the Gaul
(emphasis added)
Originally posted by zatara
Because there is little tangible evidence to proof chemtrails are a fact, this thread is not for chemtrail debunkers or misplaced funny people. If you have evidence that chemtrails are the imagination of confused people please start your own thread just about that.
Boy, you guys are quick to try to shoot down these threads, huh? If you think that the "believers" of "chemtrails" are a bunch of misguided idiots, then are you really confident that your criticism will magically change them? Why do you bother?
Because if they don't, they don't get paid
That's all.
End.
Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
Originally posted by HIWATT
Originally posted by jlm912
reply to post by ProudBird and post by Aloysius the Gaul
(emphasis added)
Originally posted by zatara
Because there is little tangible evidence to proof chemtrails are a fact, this thread is not for chemtrail debunkers or misplaced funny people. If you have evidence that chemtrails are the imagination of confused people please start your own thread just about that.
Boy, you guys are quick to try to shoot down these threads, huh? If you think that the "believers" of "chemtrails" are a bunch of misguided idiots, then are you really confident that your criticism will magically change them? Why do you bother?
Because if they don't, they don't get paid
That's all.
End.
Got any actual evidence that I get paid to do this? A payslip perhaps?
'cos if you don't then you are a liar.
Originally posted by HIWATT
Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
[Got any actual evidence that I get paid to do this? A payslip perhaps?
'cos if you don't then you are a liar.
Call it "a hunch"
Of course I'm a liar. Have you been 100% honest in your life? I thought not.... next
Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
Originally posted by HIWATT
Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
[Got any actual evidence that I get paid to do this? A payslip perhaps?
'cos if you don't then you are a liar.
Call it "a hunch"
Of course I'm a liar. Have you been 100% honest in your life? I thought not.... next
OK - let me be more specific then - if you don't have any evidence that I am being paid to debunk, then any claim that that is the case is a lie.
good on you for having the honesty to retract your allegation since you lacked any evidence for it.
shame so many people persist with the chemtrail hoax despite the total lack of any verifiable evidence for it too!
Originally posted by HIWATT
Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
Originally posted by HIWATT
Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
[Got any actual evidence that I get paid to do this? A payslip perhaps?
'cos if you don't then you are a liar.
Call it "a hunch"
Of course I'm a liar. Have you been 100% honest in your life? I thought not.... next
OK - let me be more specific then - if you don't have any evidence that I am being paid to debunk, then any claim that that is the case is a lie.
good on you for having the honesty to retract your allegation since you lacked any evidence for it.
shame so many people persist with the chemtrail hoax despite the total lack of any verifiable evidence for it too!
I didn't retract anything.
I believe you and your buddies hang around these threads for a reason. That reason is to disrupt and derail conversation by persons with legitimate concerns regarding geo-engineering.
It has nothing to do with "denying ignorance" when SO MUCH of all your time is dedicated to one topic which you admit to believing is false.
At best, you are all trolls, at worst, you are paid to be here and be disruptive.
Can I prove it. Nope. Do I care? Nope. Because it doesn't change anything I believe in and I know I'm not the only one.
The funny thing is, I bet for every person you think is rolling their eyes at the "chemtrail conspiracy talk" there are probably 10 doing the same reading all of your (buddies inclusive) posts.
There is a VAST amount of data out there supporting this project is a reality. It's unfortunate that much of that is circumstantial at this point,
leaving us with educated conclusions upon which to form our opinions.
That doesn't make them any less valid IMO
as where there is smoke there is always fire.
I will not be dissuaded by you or anyone else, simply because Obama or some other high ranking gov official hasn't made a tv appearance publicly stating "WE ARE SPRAYING CHEMICALS IN THE UPPER ATMOSPHERE! JUST THOUGHT YA SHOULD KNOW! MMMK? BYE!"
You guys are wasting your time.
Originally posted by ProudBird
reply to post by zatara
"Those planes" are "allowed" to fly over Europe because they are regularly scheduled normally equipped passenger and cargo airliners, going on about their business of travel and commerce.
The "spray" H2O, primarily. Not to diminish or disregard the fact that as a result of normal combustion of fossil fuels, there are also the normal types of pollutants in the exhaust, as a result of that combustion.
But, that is all.
Period.
End.
I agree, after reviewing the video... that geoengineering did not fare that well. I also highly doubt AMEG are going to change their minds. However, what I find comforting is that researchers into geoengineering have been very quick to argue strongly that rapid deployment in the artic is hugely premature and exceptionally unwise. Those researching both cloud whitening and stratospheric aerosols (both presented as potential solutions by AMEG) have been exceptionally clear on this. Surely this points to strong self-governance and undermines the argument that those seriously researching geoengineering are desperate to deploy?
The most alarming thing to me is the lack of understanding of this issue from within the environmental audit commission itself.
Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
From the 1970's they launch a major campaign,
they redesigned cars, airplanes, smoke stacks to meet new emission standards
by pumping out more co2, good for trees and the environment at the time they claim.
then 30 years later they launch a major campaign,
co2 bad we need carbon tax, cap and trade etc.
So we are now in our next geoengineering campaign to be funded by a tax.
So in the 1970's planet cooling, add co2,
year 2000 plus, planet warming remove co2.
Airlines, smoke stacks first in line for new co2 tax.
At the same time we see what we call debunkers
trying to form opinion.
I just have not figured out if it is to form opinion
for, more or less tax.
But they sure are trying to point contrails as a great harmless thing.
In a catalytic converter, the catalyst (in the form of platinum and palladium) is coated onto a ceramic honeycomb or ceramic beads that are housed in a muffler-like package attached to the exhaust pipe. The catalyst helps to convert carbon monoxide into carbon dioxide.