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Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul
Since I feel you know more about airplane engines then me,
I will let you describe the redesign of aircraft engines, and how they put out more co2 now
then they did in the past.
Then we can look at smoke stack emissions,
and how they put out more co2 gas now then in the past.
Without knowing maybe our first geoengineering was with co2,
but either way we all paid more for, product and tax.
Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul
Since I feel you know more about airplane engines then me,
I will let you describe the redesign of aircraft engines, and how they put out more co2 now
then they did in the past.
What makes you think they put out more CO2 now than they used to?
CO2 Emissions/NM Decline | More efficient engines = less CO2 Unfortunately, while average CO2 emissions per aircraft have been more than cut in half, the fleet of business jet aircraft has increased from about 1,150 in the late sixties to about 19,000 in 2008. Thus, the overall CO2 emissions from business aviation have increased from about 1.0 to 2.0 million metric tonnes of CO2 per year in the late 1960s to between 15 and 20 million tonnes per year today. A metric tonne equals 2,204 pounds and is the common unit of measure in the world of CO2 emissions.
Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul
Since I feel you know more about airplane engines then me,
I will let you describe the redesign of aircraft engines, and how they put out more co2 now
then they did in the past.
What makes you think they put out more CO2 now than they used to?
So it appears that aircraft engines put out less co2 now, but more since increase of aircraft in sky.
(Which you showed me last night)
So we have more aircraft, more cars, more co2,
but co2 was suppose to be good, trees live on co2 etc.
CO2 Emissions/NM Decline | More efficient engines = less CO2 Unfortunately, while average CO2 emissions per aircraft have been more than cut in half, the fleet of business jet aircraft has increased from about 1,150 in the late sixties to about 19,000 in 2008. Thus, the overall CO2 emissions from business aviation have increased from about 1.0 to 2.0 million metric tonnes of CO2 per year in the late 1960s to between 15 and 20 million tonnes per year today. A metric tonne equals 2,204 pounds and is the common unit of measure in the world of CO2 emissions.
www.conklindd.com...
Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
Geoengineering with co2, on going, or the past?
ge·o·en·gi·neer
[jee-oh-en-juh-neer] Show IPA
verb (used without object), verb (used with object)
1.
to make a large-scale effort to modify (the earth or its environment), especially to counteract global warming: Pulling carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere is one way to geoengineer the planet.
Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
Geoengineering with co2, on going, or the past?
the word Geoengineering is defined as
ge·o·en·gi·neer
[jee-oh-en-juh-neer] Show IPA
verb (used without object), verb (used with object)
1.
to make a large-scale effort to modify (the earth or its environment), especially to counteract global warming: Pulling carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere is one way to geoengineer the planet.
- dictionary.reference.com...
AFAIK no-one has ever attempted to use CO2 to do this - so in answer to your question, option 3 - never.
Perhaps you mean attempts to lower CO2 production rather than "using" CO2 for geoengineering??
In which case attempts to reduce carbon output are certainly happening now.
Terraforming (literally, "Earth-shaping") of a planet, moon, or other body is the hypothetical process of deliberately modifying its atmosphere, temperature, surface topography or ecology to be similar to the biosphere of Earth, in order to make it habitable by humans.
Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
Originally posted by zatara
The thing that I think is obvious in this whole chemtrail busines is the fact that not all leaders of governments and decision making people in governments are corrupt and that they must have a very good reason to keep us out of the chemtrail loop.
that would be that there's no actual evidence that chemtrails exist, that there's no actual geo-engineering programmes going on spraying anything into the sky, and that therefore there is no loop.
Glad to have cleared that up for you
Originally posted by SteelToe
In general, any info about new science and technology the government makes public. Has been in the works for the past 20-30 years or so.
All the talk about geoengineering coming out is now fits perfectly in that timeline.
- from this history of geoengineering written in 2000
The first use of the term geoengineering in approximately the sense defined above was by Marchetti in the early 1970s to describe the mitigation of the climatic impact of fossil fuel combustion by the injection of CO2 into the deep ocean.
Originally posted by Human_Alien
reply to post by Grossac
I believe cloud seeding is done from the ground....then shot upward. Like a cannon-like apparatus.
The planes are aerosol spraying. Grant it, they might be cloud-seeding from a plane (which I doubt) and if that is the case, why the secrecy? Cloud seeding, although tampering with nature, after all, is an evasive GOOD thing, right?
I don't believe what we see here in south Florida is cloud seeding. Mainly because there's enough moisture in the air (and rains every other day) that their efforts would be a waste of resources. They should cloud-seed in the deserts not in the tropics.
Me thinks they're blocking out the Sun's potential radiation rays. Makes too much sense for me to think otherwise at the moment.
No, this is not 1 April – and this is not an April Fool’s hoax. Mad as it may sound, Danish researchers have announced a theory that may not only explain why people all over the world are getting fatter and fatter, but also warn of the serious consequences for life on Earth of continued pollution of the atmosphere by CO2 emissions. In itself, the theory is quite simple: CO2 contributes to making us fat.
Obesity may follow CO2 concentration
Hersoug has since studied events and research results that could support his theory. 1. He says the development in obesity in the US was fastest in the period 1986-2010 on the east coast – where CO2 concentrations are highest.
CO2 makes us eat more This discovery made it possible to develop a precise hypothesis for how CO2 makes us fatter: We breathe more CO2, which makes our blood more acidic; this affects our brain, so we want to eat more.
Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
See I am not the only one looking at Co2
Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
See I am not the only one looking at Co2
Really?
Gosh what with all this worldwide discussion of CO2 as a greenhouse gas over the last 10-15 years, and stuff I thought you were......