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The Problem with Ron Paul: CODEPINK Founder Praises Paul

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posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 06:44 PM
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I don't see what's wrong with Dr. Pauls foreign policy.

People always argue that all these other nations would still be after America even if we pulled out of the rest of the world.

Ok... That just means we'd have THAT many more people defending our country here at home. I would think if someone wanted to attack America, now would be the time to do it while our forces are spread out over the world.
It would seem like the most stupid thing you could ever do if you wanted to attack America when all of it's forces are actually IN America. It would be suicide.

Plus, more spending on defending our own borders would mean better technology to do it with.

*Shrug*
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posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 07:00 PM
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Here is what people are missing well some are

Imagine if you will Clinton killed Bin Laden the last 12 years would not have happened as we know it he had 4 times to change the course of history to protect Americans lives and it's treasure.

That is why foreign policy matters and having the right person at the right place at the right time.

Sticking your head in the sand is what Clinton did and it is what Paul want's to do and his supporters.


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posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 07:07 PM
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Do you know where you are Neo? You are on a website in which many people believe Bin Laden had nothing to do with 9/11 to begin with!

So your Clinton/OBL reference may not make any impact.... especially in reference to Ron Paul.



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 07:11 PM
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Doesn't matter what they believe whether or not it was an inside job or he had nothing to do with it.

Bin Laden was the catalyst for Afghanistan,Iraq,Yemen,Pakistan,Uganda,Libya the last 12 years people would have nothing to talk about.

The simple fact was the majority of people didn't have a clue who Bin Laden was or Afghanistan.
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posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 07:22 PM
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Doesn't matter what they believe whether or not it was an inside job or he had nothing to do with it.


The what does Clinton/OBL/Ron Paul have to do with it?



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 07:27 PM
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Let's see gutting of the military the hands off foreign policy that was deemed a "police matters".

Being soft in a nutshell Clinton had his cruise missles Obama has his drones with Paul any attack will be met with nothing but people saying "we deserved it".



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 07:28 PM
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We don't live in Utopia folks and to think that if we just shrink everything back all will be well and other nations will simply leave us alone is just not the real world. Our nation will always be faced with challenges and threats.

Is isolationism even feasible nowadays. Perhaps it is for Switzerland a country the size of my thumb. In an ideal world sure Ron Paul's idea would be great as long as all other nations follow the same path. Not going to happen.

Like it or not other weaker allied nations have always relied the U.S. for back up or even primary protection/defense. That's the world that has been created and fostered generation after generation. There are plenty of problems with Afghanistan and I would be pleased as punch if we brought every US soldier back home because they don't want us there and never did. That does not mean that our troops should never be used in a foreign campaign in the future.

We've got an entirely different situation brewing in Africa right now and not a single candidate has said a word including Ron Paul. Why? We have US soldiers stationed in 4 Central African Nations right now. They are advisers and trainers and above all hunters for Joseph Kony and the Lords Revolutionary Army. What started out as troops in Uganda back in October as suddenly expanded to troops in South Sudan, CAR, and Democratic Republic of Congo. What's next?? Based on the Law Obama signed back in May 2010 anything is possible. ANYTHING!

No Comment from any candidate and no coverage on the nightly news. Just a brief news story if you dig deep enough. If Ron Paul is such a Ball Buster perhaps one of you can ask for his explanation.

Here is the Vote on S. 1067: Lord's Resistance Army Disarmament and Northern Uganda Recovery Act of 2009

Mar 10, 2010: This bill passed in the Senate by Unanimous Consent. A record of each senator’s position was not kept.
May 12, 2010: This bill passed in the House of Representatives by voice vote. A record of each representative’s position was not kept.


No record of the voice vote in the House. Hmmm... Wonder how Paul voted??
www.govtrack.us...


(1) providing political, economic, military, and intelligence support for viable multilateral efforts to protect civilians from the Lord’s Resistance Army, to apprehend or remove Joseph Kony and his top commanders from the battlefield in the continued absence of a negotiated solution, and to disarm and demobilize the remaining Lord’s Resistance Army fighters;

(2) targeting assistance to respond to the humanitarian needs of populations in northeastern Congo, southern Sudan, and Central African Republic currently affected by the activity of the Lord’s Resistance Army; and

www.govtrack.us...

Killing or Capturing Kony is a good thing unfortunately there are strings attached to this.

Paul Voted "Yes" and there was no floor debate regarding this law and what it may bring in the future.
maplight.org...

We started as advisers and trainers in Vietnam too!!



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 07:31 PM
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with Paul any attack will be met with nothing but people saying "we deserved it".


WRONG!

That is not what his policy is. His policy is to defend our borders and only go to war when the conditions under the constitution have been met and voted on.

We have a constitution for a reason....right?

If we are attacked he will respond! Why do so many people refuse to actually read or listen to what he says?



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 07:36 PM
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Is there really any point in discussing this issue with someone that doesn't know the difference between isolationism and non-interventionism?



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 07:37 PM
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Yawn

After 30 years as a congressman he as done such a great job of "protecting".
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posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 07:39 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
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Yawn

After 30 years as a congressman he as done such a great job of "protecting".
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What?

Now your just not making any sense at all.



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 08:32 PM
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Originally posted by sheepslayer247
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Is there really any point in discussing this issue with someone that doesn't know the difference between isolationism and non-interventionism?


Non-Interventionism... I see you've been doing your Ron Paul homework. Good Boy! The US could never fit that role in our modern age of Humanitarian Intervention. ( use of military force if necessary). Its the new thing at the UN you know and Ron Paul does not fit their mold.

“How could a readiness for war in time of peace be safely prohibited, unless we could prohibit, in like manner, the preparations and establishments of every hostile nation?” - James Madison Federalist Papers Article #41

Think about that as China triples its military spending and as Russia builds a new 100 ton ICBM with Putin as the new president and indefinite ruler of Russia.

meet ron paul the American Isolationist promoting the ideology



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 08:49 PM
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Think about that as China triples its military spending and as Russia builds a new 100 ton ICBM with Putin as the new president and indefinite ruler of Russia.


Ok, you must be one scared person....clinging to your blankets like a scared pansy!

I can't argue with that! You did all the work for me.


None of that had anything to do with RP's policy, but nice try.



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 09:11 PM
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Let's talk more after Ron Paul Wins in November.
Sorry to bust you out of fantasy land.



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 09:15 PM
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We'll be in more wars in November and all the non-Paulers will be happy.

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posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 09:36 PM
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Really?

Because there's plenty of Americans who want Paul's stance on foreign policy.

I think his libertarian views are more of a turn-off.



posted on Mar, 6 2012 @ 10:19 PM
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Deal! And you can come talk to me after Romney/Santorum runs off to the sandbox and kills another million people so that you can feel safe wrapped up in your snuggie.



posted on Mar, 7 2012 @ 07:29 AM
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Why did Paul support the deployment of Well armed Spec Ops troops into a highly volatile region that is riddled with corruption, savagery and civil war? No Debate, No Floor Discussion. Paul is old enough to remember Vietnam and the advisory role that our spec ops forces initially played there. 1961 started out with 400 Green Berets armed with "chalk boards" and M-14's deployed in Vietnam.

Now we have at least one hundred spec ops forces (plus their force multiplier tools) in 4 countries in Africa.

Come One Ron Paul kids, what's going on.....



posted on Mar, 7 2012 @ 02:30 PM
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The Russians stopped Hitler. The Americans only stopped Hitler on Television and on the cinema screen.



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