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Israel Does Not Have Some Magic Power Over the West

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posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 11:04 AM
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This is something Americans and Muslims like to claim but in normal western countries Israel has no power at all. People tell me on here that they have power over Britain but ?Britain only has a population of 225,000 Jews out of 58 million people. why would we be their puppets. The Rothschilds are long gone and moved their # to america, I don't get all of this zionist crap, there is absolutly no evidence to suggest any country other that Isreael is under the control of Israel, yet every man and his dog seem to believe they hold magical power on here. Stop flattering them and get real FFS.



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 11:07 AM
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Not controlled by Israel, but controlled by Zionists, learn the distinction, and the Rothschild's own teh bank of England, therefore own the money, so yes they control evrything



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 11:10 AM
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The entire west is built on laws that started in the Torah.

Law is the deepest root in "society".

Of course they have power.

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Want change? Define value properly (e.g. - human first) and find a social currency to replace the current economic model.



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 11:11 AM
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Originally posted by michael1983l
This is something Americans and Muslims like to claim but in normal western countries Israel has no power at all. People tell me on here that they have power over Britain but ?Britain only has a population of 225,000 Jews out of 58 million people. why would we be their puppets. The Rothschilds are long gone and moved their # to america, I don't get all of this zionist crap, there is absolutly no evidence to suggest any country other that Isreael is under the control of Israel, yet every man and his dog seem to believe they hold magical power on here. Stop flattering them and get real FFS.


There's something like only fifteen million Jews on the entire planet of seven billion people.

You wonder how they do it? You know, remain so resilient through it all.

Hey, maybe it has something to do with the Bible. That Old Testament thing.

Oh, well. The beat goes on.............



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 11:12 AM
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Incorrect.
Israel DOES have some magical power over the west.
Whether you like it or not the Zionist such as the Rothschild family control the Worlds Banks, Governments, and their Leaders.

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posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 11:14 AM
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Originally posted by PrinceDreamer
Not controlled by Israel, but controlled by Zionists, learn the distinction, and the Rothschild's own teh bank of England, therefore own the money, so yes they control evrything


indeed we have a winner. you control the money, you control the country, doesn't matter if it's one person or twenty persons, they pull the strings.



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 11:18 AM
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Oh, well....more of that class warfare thing going on.

Like it hasn't stopped for tens of thousands of years.

But now we have the internet. I guess there is a difference.
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posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 11:45 AM
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yes, yes they do. I'm sorry but I need to see the link where this information came from to make sure it is a credible source. No link, no truths.



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 11:45 AM
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Waaay beyond the banks.
To every christian and jew they are the "chosen people".
If you believe religion is not a "magical" thing, you are delusional.
Why else would people kill and do worse?



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 11:48 AM
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Originally posted by PrinceDreamer
Not controlled by Israel, but controlled by Zionists, learn the distinction, and the Rothschild's own teh bank of England, therefore own the money, so yes they control evrything


Yes, very correct.
. He who controls the money controls everything.

For those who do not believe that it is possible for a small group of people to control a large portion of the world, including governments, politicians, NGO's etc , I suggest reading this article. Very interesting. A University of Zurich study 'proves' that a small group of companies - mainly banks - wields huge power over the global economy
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posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 12:52 PM
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There are some very powerful organizations that are well connected to politics.

AIPAC is an active one.

They routinely exercise influence.

some examples in other threads.


(81 U.S. Congressmen to visit Israel in coming weeks ! -- Aug 13 2011)
www.abovetopsecret.com...


(AIPAC to Obama: Attack Iran or let Israel do it -- Feb 11 2012)
www.abovetopsecret.com...


(Who is behind AIPAC -- Jul 27 2011)
www.abovetopsecret.com...


The Rothschilds seem to be fairly big today too !!

Rothschild is one of the world’s largest independent financial advisory groups, employing 3,000 people in 42 countries around the world.

Rothschild Homepage









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posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 01:18 PM
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More about AIPAC.


"Our Mission"

AIPAC’s mission is to strengthen the ties between the United States and its ally Israel. As America’s leading pro-Israel lobby, AIPAC works with Democrats, Republicans and Independents to enact public policy that enhances the U.S.-Israel relationship.

AIPAC’s staff and citizen activists educate decision makers about the bonds that unite the United States and Israel and how it is in America’s best interest to help ensure that the Jewish state is safe, strong and secure.

Cooperation between the two countries is advantageous for both nations. AIPAC urges all members of Congress to support Israel through foreign aid, government partnerships, joint anti-terrorism efforts and the promotion of a negotiated two-state solution—a Jewish state of Israel and a demilitarized Palestinian state.
Our Mission




"How We Work"

AIPAC empowers pro-Israel activists across all ages, religions and races to be politically engaged and build relationships with members of Congress from both sides of the aisle to promote the U.S.-Israel relationship. The vital work of AIPAC is made possible by its dedicated membership participating in AIPAC’s Clubs, investing with the AIPAC Tomorrow Campaign, and being politically engaged with members of Congress.

More than 100,000 citizens from across the country work with AIPAC staff to strengthen the bonds between the United States and the Jewish state. AIPAC members in all 50 states are encouraged to be politically active and develop relationships with their members of Congress to help educate them about the importance of U.S.-Israel ties. ..............

....AIPAC also works on hundreds of college and high school campuses, empowering and educating student activists to answer Israel's detractors and how to use political involvement to build support for Israel.
How We Work




"What We've Accomplished"

With the support of our members nationwide, AIPAC works with Democrats and Republicans in Congress and leaders in the Executive branch to protect and strengthen the U.S.-Israel friendship.

Keeping America and Israel Secure

Working with Congress to ensure that Israel is able to defend itself. The Jewish state needs more than $3 billion in critical security assistance to remain capable of facing increased threats posed by terrorist groups and those sworn to its--and America's--destruction.

Sanctioning Iran

Achieving passage of more than a dozen bills and resolutions imposing tough sanctions on Iran during the past 15 years. As the Islamic Republic continues to be the world's leading sponsor of terrorism--including insurgents fighting U.S. troops in Afghanistan and Iraq--and develop a nuclear weapon, America must exert economic pressure on the regime and slow its pursuit of a nuclear weapons capability.
What We've Accomplished




"Legislative Agenda"

Congress has been a bedrock of support for the U.S.-Israel relationship by supporting aid, helping stop Iran's pursuit of a nuclear weapons capability, supporting Israel's right to defend itself and reinforcing American policy that peace will only be achieved through direct negotiations. Below are the current legislative priorities that will strengthen American and Israeli security and the bonds that unite these two allies.
Legislative Agenda




"Issues"

AIPAC closely monitors a broad range of issues that affect the U.S.-Israel relationship. Over the past 50 years, AIPAC has built a reputation for providing reliable, credible and timely research and information for decision makers in Washington and across the country. Browse below to learn more about the key issues and AIPAC analysis.

Link for many explained....
Issues



AIPAC is very powerful and influential.



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 02:37 PM
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Originally posted by g146541
Waaay beyond the banks.
To every christian and jew they are the "chosen people".
If you believe religion is not a "magical" thing, you are delusional.
Why else would people kill and do worse?


you may be surprised to know that many muslims and jews have no desire to kill one another nor anyone else. and if you think anything currently in our world is beyond the banks, you're sadly mistaken. even if jews and muslims all wanted to kill each other they would require resources in great numbers and you can't buy them with faith, it takes money and lots of it.



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 02:45 PM
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reply to post by PrinceDreamer
 

and the bloodline all the way back to Moses!!!



posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 03:09 PM
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quote]Originally posted by michael1983l
This is something Americans and Muslims like to claim but in normal western countries Israel has no power at all. People tell me on here that they have power over Britain but ?Britain only has a population of 225,000 Jews out of 58 million people. why would we be their puppets. The Rothschilds are long gone and moved their # to america, I don't get all of this zionist crap, there is absolutly no evidence to suggest any country other that Isreael is under the control of Israel, yet every man and his dog seem to believe they hold magical power on here. Stop flattering them and get real FFS. End of quote.
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The one word response to your short-sighted argument is MONEY!

Strange how you completely overlooked the (not idle) boasting of Israeli leaders claiming their hold on the leaders of American. And it isn't because there is just so much love for Israel, again, it is MONEY!

Find one major politician that does not court Israeli money, just one. And heaven help anyone that speaks a bad word toward Israel.
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posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 04:00 PM
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tell me what other nation has so much power over the UK. watch this and then tell me Israel does not have any power over the UK. No magic necessary when the Israeli lobby is the most powerful lobby group in the uk.




posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 05:25 PM
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Israel Does Not Have Some Magic Power Over the West


Sure they do...

We call it the bible...




posted on Feb, 12 2012 @ 06:16 PM
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www.jewwatch.com...

This website has tons of information on Zionism and the many things they maintain control over.



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