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Originally posted by lunarasparagus
Originally posted by pshea38
reply to post by minikin84
Actually just noticed this!!!
Zoom in on her right hand.
What the f* is going on there? Did she lose her little finger in an accident?
If so, why show it off in so unnecessary a way in such an 'artistic' picture?
I think the hand looks odd because we're missing some detail due to the degraded resolution. The finger touching her chin is actually her pinky. It's being bent behind the knuckles of her other fingers. There's nothing wrong with it.
Originally posted by Alfie1
Originally posted by pshea38
i]
Millions of Middle-eastern men women and children were murdered on the back
of the 9/11 Official explanation, not to mind the drastic changes brought down upon
the Americans people and indeed the world at large. If there is even the slightest doubt
regarding the veracity of the claims regarding the genuity of the victims, should it not be
investigated thoroughly, openly and honestly?[/quote
edit on 12-2-2012 by pshea38 because: (no reason given)
You were doing so well and then you go and post this bs. Obviously no-one really died in the Middle East and I am staggered you have not seen the obvious fakery. Show me a single picture of a supposed middle eastern casualty where I can't make fun of their hair, ears, eyes, whatever.
Originally posted by djeminy
Originally posted by lunarasparagus
Originally posted by pshea38
Here is one more (of the five) picture of Karol (with her sister) to be found
from a google image search.
www.nydailynews.com...
Image scaled up and cropped
Notice anything odd about this one?
(clue: She always had her head right on her shoulders, did Karol!)
And what is up with the eyes? The hair? Everything!
And her 'family' submit this in loving memory?
Are we beginning to realise yet?
We were all SUCKERED!
Where's the "evidence" here of something? So you don't like her eyes and her hair? Again--the only thing you lack is PROOF. Subjective inferences are meaningless.
I must agree with pshea.
Karol's face is off-set too far to the left in relation to the center line of her body where it normally and naturally would meet the center line of the face and neck.
Tilting the face to the left, doesn't raise the right shoulder muscles to the extent shown in the photo.
The knife-sharp vertical shadow-line on the left side of the sister's face is obviously an impossibility. This doesn't happen in the real world. Shadows follow the curves of the human body.
Fingers normally only consist of 3 distinct movable sections. On the photo we see 4 sections on the nearest finger. To 'blame' the last section as being a glued on plastic nail makes no sense, as we see no plastic nails on the other fingers.
I'll definitely vote for photo-shop-business as well.
Cheers
Originally posted by lunarasparagus
reply to post by pshea38
Sometimes photos can play tricks on you. But it doesn't mean they're fake.
What about this one--do you see anything wrong in this photo? If so, do you believe its fake? If so, is the person fake?
Originally posted by pshea38
Originally posted by lunarasparagus
reply to post by pshea38
Sometimes photos can play tricks on you. But it doesn't mean they're fake.
What about this one--do you see anything wrong in this photo? If so, do you believe its fake? If so, is the person fake?
Well the legs appear to be the wrong way around, but looking at toes of the left foot, I would
say that the left leg is a prosthetic limb and her left stump is concealed behind it, giving
the impression that it connects to the right leg.
If this is the case, it is surely a deliberate attempt to deceive.
If not, then I don't know.
I do see the face in the background also.
So my answer is All Real, but it is a trick/false comparison.
Originally posted by Myendica
pshea38.. i spent more time than I feel I should have trying to see your point of view. Now I ask one more thing from you. I scoured that site up and down reading how the people are fake, and the images are photo shopped.. but I didn't see one, not 1.. proof, that any photo had been photo shopped. if you could prove to me, that any of the photos are photo shopped, and I mean prove, not saying her lip looks weird, or eye is crooked.. actual data showing the picture was taken date a, and edited date b.. I will again continue to see your point of view.. but until that happens, I cannot see your point of view. it doesn't add up.. it isn't logical, regardless how many times the members of that site say its obvious, its not.. so.. please, prove that any photo of the victims, or of the site is photo shopped, besides the pic of the guy standing on the roof showing a boeing, and besides the devils face..edit on 13-2-2012 by Myendica because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by lunarasparagus
Originally posted by pshea38
Originally posted by lunarasparagus
reply to post by pshea38
Sometimes photos can play tricks on you. But it doesn't mean they're fake.
What about this one--do you see anything wrong in this photo? If so, do you believe its fake? If so, is the person fake?
Well the legs appear to be the wrong way around, but looking at toes of the left foot, I would
say that the left leg is a prosthetic limb and her left stump is concealed behind it, giving
the impression that it connects to the right leg.
If this is the case, it is surely a deliberate attempt to deceive.
If not, then I don't know.
I do see the face in the background also.
So my answer is All Real, but it is a trick/false comparison.
The photo is of Spanish minister Carme Chacón. She definitely does not have a prosthetic leg, and the photo is real.
Now if you were going to be consistent, you would need to declare the photo and the person fake, since she has no prosthetic leg and "the legs appear to be the wrong way around", surely an "attempt to deceive", therefore, FAKE. Fake photo=fake person, so you have proven that Carme Chacón is a sim.
Then again, sometimes photographs can play tricks on you.
See the photo here.edit on 13-2-2012 by lunarasparagus because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by pshea38
Originally posted by lunarasparagus
Originally posted by pshea38
Originally posted by lunarasparagus
reply to post by pshea38
Sometimes photos can play tricks on you. But it doesn't mean they're fake.
What about this one--do you see anything wrong in this photo? If so, do you believe its fake? If so, is the person fake?
Well the legs appear to be the wrong way around, but looking at toes of the left foot, I would
say that the left leg is a prosthetic limb and her left stump is concealed behind it, giving
the impression that it connects to the right leg.
If this is the case, it is surely a deliberate attempt to deceive.
If not, then I don't know.
I do see the face in the background also.
So my answer is All Real, but it is a trick/false comparison.
The photo is of Spanish minister Carme Chacón. She definitely does not have a prosthetic leg, and the photo is real.
Now if you were going to be consistent, you would need to declare the photo and the person fake, since she has no prosthetic leg and "the legs appear to be the wrong way around", surely an "attempt to deceive", therefore, FAKE. Fake photo=fake person, so you have proven that Carme Chacón is a sim.
Then again, sometimes photographs can play tricks on you.
See the photo here.edit on 13-2-2012 by lunarasparagus because: (no reason given)
Cool. I see it now.
I did say 'If' in my response, but that's fine now that it's cleared up.
(If it was designed as a deliberate but real deception, my attempt wasn't bad, no?)
This is not the same though as the other issues, and you know it.
Originally posted by lunarasparagus
Originally posted by pshea38
Originally posted by lunarasparagus
Originally posted by pshea38
Originally posted by lunarasparagus
reply to post by pshea38
Sometimes photos can play tricks on you. But it doesn't mean they're fake.
What about this one--do you see anything wrong in this photo? If so, do you believe its fake? If so, is the person fake?
Well the legs appear to be the wrong way around, but looking at toes of the left foot, I would
say that the left leg is a prosthetic limb and her left stump is concealed behind it, giving
the impression that it connects to the right leg.
If this is the case, it is surely a deliberate attempt to deceive.
If not, then I don't know.
I do see the face in the background also.
So my answer is All Real, but it is a trick/false comparison.
The photo is of Spanish minister Carme Chacón. She definitely does not have a prosthetic leg, and the photo is real.
Now if you were going to be consistent, you would need to declare the photo and the person fake, since she has no prosthetic leg and "the legs appear to be the wrong way around", surely an "attempt to deceive", therefore, FAKE. Fake photo=fake person, so you have proven that Carme Chacón is a sim.
Then again, sometimes photographs can play tricks on you.
See the photo here.edit on 13-2-2012 by lunarasparagus because: (no reason given)
Cool. I see it now.
I did say 'If' in my response, but that's fine now that it's cleared up.
(If it was designed as a deliberate but real deception, my attempt wasn't bad, no?)
This is not the same though as the other issues, and you know it.
It demonstrates a key point--that just because you THINK your are seeing a fake image, doesn't mean you are. And even if it was fake in some respect, doesn't mean she doesn't exist. The difference here is that Carme Chacón is a famous politician and so verifying her existence is easy, the web alone is full of myriad professional high-quality photos and video of her.
But were she not famous and if the above photo was only one of three or four that you had access to and it was reported by the media that she had died in a mysterious, unusual, or suspicious way, you might be inclined to question the authenticity of the photo and the person.
As with Carme Chacón, the only real way to verify a person's authenticity is to gather more information on her. In the case of Karol Ann Keasler, how can you be so sure from a couple very low quality photographs that she (or any other 9/11 victim) is fake? You can't. Photographs can deceive. You would need to talk to her friends and family, gather more substantial evidence, and only then make a legitimate determination.
How objective and open-minded would you have been about the apparent anomaly in above photo if you had been told she was a victim of 9/11?
Ever heard of the overconfidence effect?
Originally posted by lunarasparagus
reply to post by djeminy
What you're describing is exactly the point of my posting this photo. It LOOKS off, like each foot is on the wrong leg. However, there's actually nothing wrong with the photo and it hasn't been altered. It's an unintended illusion.
Originally posted by Myendica
reply to post by djeminy
No. crossing your legs twice is not impossible. where are you guys coming from? Haven't you spent anytime around people before? I'm glad you are all convinced of your position, but sometimes i question if you even believe what you say. Thus why I tried seeing yours and pshea point of view,. But I dont think either of you two actually believe what you say.
Originally posted by djeminy
Originally posted by lunarasparagus
reply to post by djeminy
What you're describing is exactly the point of my posting this photo. It LOOKS off, like each foot is on the wrong leg. However, there's actually nothing wrong with the photo and it hasn't been altered. It's an unintended illusion.
You're not quite getting it. It LOOKS off because it IS off.
Her legs are crossing each other twice, which is virtually impossible to do.
If you move her right foot over on the other side, so the foot now sits together with the left foot, the two big toes are placed next to each other, BUT her legs are still crossed. Should she now un-cross her legs again, the two big toes will cease to be placed next to each other. Instead they will now be placed in opposition to each other.
As i think it very unlikely she was born in that strange way, there's definitely no' illusion' present in this photo.
The photo has been altered. The photo has been photo-shopped to appear like a "trick photo".
Cheers
edit on 14-2-2012 by djeminy because: (no reason given)