The Vision by Perry Stone (Re Iran, Attacks on USA, oil, gas prices, food shortages, ...)

Here's the link:

www.voe.org...

Excerpt:

To the Church
•Every church should begin organizing small home groups in the event people are unable to attend evening services.
•Every church should prepare the names and all information on the elderly members and especially the members who are widows indeed. The local church must care for those who are unable to care for themselves.
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To the Individuals
•Know your neighbors and form a community watch to watch the homes and property of others when needed
•Prepare in every way as though you are in a very long winter storm and unable to get out
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•In certain cities and areas, have a plan of protection for your family
•If investing, know your investments and do not place money in anything that can be shaken in the event of a war in the Gulf, etc.

The whole vision/warning is worth reading at the link, imho.

My major comment is that I think he may have been TOO MILD in his warning.

Hopefully prayer can moderate such events . . . or maybe delay them somewhat.

However, I'm increasingly convinced that the globalist elites are ready to light off WW3 . . . and licking their chops over their blood lust to spill so much precious blood and lives.

BTW, I have some errands to do and may not be back to the thread for a few hours. Ditto my other active thread here:

www.abovetopsecret.com...&addstar=1&on=13352608#pid13352608

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I know that there will be many here that don't care to listen to a "preacher" on this topic. It is sobering to say the least. However those of us who have read and believed that these things must come to pass are not to be suprised.

I expect many on this thread to be very hate filled to this response. I thank you for sharing it though.
In all thruthfulnes the prophecies of the bible can not be discounted just because you don't believe.

These visions are no different than those of secular prophets or seuthsayers.

Even the most hardened non-christian would have to honestly admit that the world is on the "ledge" of immenent peril right now.

These are definately interesting times in which we live.

Love
Red

I was okay ... kinda ... with this stuff until he got to this:

The National Level Our leaders must understand that Israel has a covenant with God and standing with Israel is standing with God's covenant.

From there I was a lost cause. Israel ... No support here. Not even sorry about it.

This is basic common sense for anyone with eyes to see. His visions are from a humanistic standpoint to produce fear, not from higher spiritual nature. Ego is apparent in his nature. So easy to see and feel.

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Even the most hardened non-christian would have to honestly admit that the world is on the "ledge" of immenent peril right now.

These are definately interesting times in which we live.

I would hope that anyone with an IQ above that of a drunken slug would realize that the world is racing itself toward hell in a handbasket--gleefully driven so by the demonized elites at the top who think they controll everything of any significance.

Thankfully, ALMIGHTY GOD WILL HAVE THEM in derision in His time.

I think the authentic Christian prophetic words are a minority sadly, of the genre. However, I do believe that the authentic such seriously betted by prayerful and discerning folks are markedly above the occultic, secular such.

And, of course, the test of time tests all such.

It doesn't appear that life as we know it has a lot of time left, however.

Thanks for your thoughtful post.
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This is basic common sense for anyone with eyes to see. His visions are from a humanistic standpoint to produce fear, not from higher spiritual nature. Ego is apparent in his nature. So easy to see and feel.




I disagree.

I think your discerner needs a tune-up or an overhaul.

He has a passion for The Lord and for the Truth of the Gospel and for what God shows him.

If folks read that as ego . . . I think the problem is in the eye of the beholder.

This shrink doesn't see in him what you seem to see.

Regardless, folks are responsible to take what he says to The Lord for confirmation, or not.

No one is suggesting anyone run off half-cocked based on what any mortal says.

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Your choice.

God says He will bless those who bless Israel and curse those who curse Israel.

I've never found it healthy or fruitful to joust with God about His priorities.

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You are a shrink, and you do not see human nature? No disrespect, but point out to me what is spiritual in nature of any of this pastors vision. Maybe I need your understanding on what you see and feel.

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I'll take my chances with the adulterated version of what God said and go with what my relationship with God says. I trust that more than some agenda-riding preacher spouting fire and brimstone.

Also, who exactly says that God loves the Israelites more than the rest of us? Is that written in all religious texts? If so, for what reason is this so?

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John Paul Jackson's 2010 to 2020 prophecies from 2008:

www.youtube.com...

I haven't watched the whole thing but it sounds congruent to me . . . and I believe it is consistent with the OP prophecies.

I understand that there are those who enjoy throwing rocks at John Paul Jackson.

I think his prophetic points can rise or fall on their own regardless of the 'telephone.'

He speaks about 5 elements:

Like a perfect storm, there are elements which WHEN COMBINED, multiply the destruction exponentially.

1. RELIGION
2. POLITICS
3. ECONOMICS
4. WAR
5. GEOPHYSICAL EVENTS

Earlier Perry Stone visions:
www.youtube.com...

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Thanks.

I think Perry Stone has some interesting research and information to offer with a lot of good insights.

I think this one has some very interesting stuff about the apparitions of Mary . . . which are congruent with my own sense and expectations of such.

Certainly Fatima was a UFO operation toward deception re the set-up for global one world religion in the END TIMES.

I am not that thrilled with Perry's affectations and pressing for audience responses. imho, he could stand to lay aside his ego stuff somewhat more.

I'm sure he'd not be thrilled with some of my affectations.

I praise God for his courage to "preach it."

I laughed when he said that Holy Spirit told him 'You have a big mouth and you'll preach whatever I'll tell you.'

Nevertheless, I appreciate his insights and research.

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Which Israel?? Which Israel does the Bible refer to and which do the replies refer to? A geographic boundary or 12 tribes?.

What did the 'Jews' do to so offend God that they have suffered centuries of persecution? Rejected Christ and sent him to the cross, via the Romans? Hardly! Without going to the cross would he still be our Christ?

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Rick Joyner's Jan 2011 Prophetic Dream on Sid Roth:

www.youtube.com...

The dream that shook Rick Joyner probably more than any ever had before . . . classifies it as an EMERGENCY LEVEL.

My paraphrased notes

1. little fires kept popping up.

2. outside was a military base . . . as we were going out . . . I went to stomp it out--I saw it had burned through the floor and subfloor--whole foundation was on fire . . . That's what's on fire--the whole foundation.

3. You don't have time to grab your computer . . .

4. The house was about to explode that's our nation . . . the church alone has the water to put out the fire with the Word of God, on the foundation.

Sid: We've gone from God sensitive to seeker sensitive . . . to our hurt

5. Need to become far more concerned about what God thinks than what man thinks. The PC stuff is being used to our hurt.

6. General G "Jerry" Boykin . . . founding member of Delta Force . . .

--Dep Sec Def for Intelligence
--Greatest threat to America--socialism
--Marxism

Boykin video segment:

--The reality is . . . Green Beret . . . studied Marxism insurgency . . . everything done in a Marxist insurgency is being done today. . . . that's what the bailouts were . . . redistributed wealth . . . medicaid and medicare . . . nothing but a redistribution of wealth . . . discredit opposition . . . Homeland Security . . . saying that threats were Right Wing Chrisitan groups; pro life groups; 2nd ammendment groups; returning vets. They never said Islamic terrorists . . . last thing . . . actually to develop a National police force that can control the population.

Prior to the election . . . Obama stood up and said he wanted a National police force just as well funded as the U.S. military. Read the health care legislation . . . it's actually in the health care legislation . . . Commissioning of officers during a time of national crisis . . . answerable only to the President . . .


Back to Sid Roth . . .

Rick Joyner . . . foundation being attacked . . . Orthodox Jewish Rabbi who believes in Jesus had a dream . . .

Oct 29 saw a huge bear . . . worse than 1929 . . .

SEEK FIRST THE KINGDOM OF GOD AND HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS Scriptures were burned into the gunstock. You can kill the bigger bear with that gun.

He went through a period of time when he would open his Bible that there was money in it--wasn't possible that anyone could have put money in his But The Lord. . . . like Jesus and Peter and the fish with the coin . . .

Rick . . . like a real experience instead of a dream . . . we have a destiny from The Lord that we will lose unless the church wakes up . . .

Thanks God that some Christians are waking up . . . they should be going into all fields as missionaries.

But I think that many of the ultimate issues are already beyond human help.

Seek first The Kingdom of God. We must have wisdom from above.

Islmization of Paris etc. . . .

We're supposed to understand the times. Christ called them hypocrites who don't understand the times. We cannot understand the modern times without understanding Islam--not just a religion but a totalitarian government demanded to control all nations . . . become a convert to Islam or a slave or be killed.

Is there any real hope?

Absolutely . . . God is not taken by surprise.

Holy Spirit is the helper not the direct doer . . . but through us . . . if we are prepared, ready, engaged, We must pray.

He'll help us but we have to ask Him.

Sid--will fighting Christians focus on God's Kingdom first instead of their differences.

About it for my paraphrased summary . . .

I think he's right. I'm a bit skeptical that at this point that there is as much time for redemptive effectiveness in turning anything major around as they talked like they thought there was in Jan 2011.

Things are much worse now, imho . . . and rapidly getting worse.

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Which Israel?? Which Israel does the Bible refer to and which do the replies refer to? A geographic boundary or 12 tribes?.

YES.

The blood children of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob . . . AND the land God decreed to be theirs.

His promises to them are His Everlasting Promises to them to remain in force as long as there are stars, sun, moon.

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The following video is, imho, by one of those . . . rough-around-the-edges sorts of codgers that just lays it all out as he's convinced God has shown him. He's not grandstanding nor prancing about on a stage as a TV evangelist. He's just making a home video and putting it out there for folks to consider and pray about. I like that.

I believe that he's quite accurate.

This is one of 6 parts about China invading on the West coast in the not distant future:

www.youtube.com...

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I don't know what to make of this bloke. He certainly seems earnest enough and quite serious. I have no reason to disbelieve him. I just don't know what to make of his observation.

I suppose it could be overblown paranoia and mis-identification of aircraft . . . though I'd think the latter would be unlikely.

Anyone else have any sense of this video in their spirits?

www.youtube.com...