reply to post by fulllotusqigong
There are countless others that say replacing your glycogen stores after they've been depleted is the best thing you can do for your body to maintain
an anabolic state and prevent the opposite...a catabolic state.
If you're working out hard enough, your insulin will spike after 20 minutes, and you have an approximate 2 hour window in which high glycemic foods
are okay to consume.
Maybe the study had people doing low to medium intensity aerobic exercises only. That would likely be a different story. As for those who are working
out at least partly within their anaerobic zone, and doing high-intensity exercises for more than 20 minutes, protein and fast acting sugar is
essential for optimal muscle growth, and limited DOMS (delayed onset muscle soreness) the next day.
It's the only time I consume sugar outright. 30 grams whey protein, and 50 grams karbolyn (mixed sourced carbs). I'm definitely growing from it!
From the same article:
There is a very small group of elite and professional athletes who are actively competing, where increasing growth hormone is not their primary goal.
For these athletes, consuming some carbs, preferably dextrose-based, in the recovery period is probably a good idea to improve their recovery time, as
they are competing and not so concerned about long-term growth hormone levels.
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When I train young athletes in speed – www.40speed.com - I explain to them that the research shows 20 to 25 grams of protein (within 30 minutes of
training) with a 4 to 1 ratio of carbs to protein, starts the recovery process quicker. This advice is given to everyone as general advice in most
fitness magazines today and is mostly based on research led by Dr John Ivey on young cyclists who have to perform several days in a row, and a quick
recovery during competition is extremely important. Clearly, young athletes more concerned with fast recovery than maximizing HGH release should use
this strategy. However, if you are middle-aged, or in a non-competitive phase of training, and keeping HGH circulating as long as possible is your
goal, then protein intake (20 to 25 grams after training) is a great strategy, but you need to monitor the glycemic rating of carbs because of the
variable impact of carbs on insulin, which in turn impacts the HGH release process. There are a couple of variables that come into play that can
change the rules for adults wanting to maximize human growth hormone from exercise. Research shows that a spike of insulin after training increases
somatostatin (the hormone that shuts down HGH). So, here's where this issue gets complicated, because it's difficult to estimate the glycemic rating
of food on different people with different muscle to body fat ratios. And what makes this issue very complicated is that the insulin producing process
is variable for every adult to some degree. It depends on where you are on the Metabolic Syndrome scale. Metabolic Syndrome just became an official
medical condition in 2001, and the research shows that even a few carbs can spike insulin for some people with insulin resistance. If you are lean
and do not need to drop a lot of body fat, then you can probably eat some carbs without spiking insulin -- and maybe even some refined sugar depending
on the interaction of the carbs with an intake of post-training protein, which will somewhat negate the impact of the carbs on the insulin response
– as opposed to an intake of carbs on an empty stomach. So, as you can see, there are many variables that come into play. In short, carbs with the
protein can be good after training as long as the glycemic response doesn't spike your insulin. Research shows that the insulin response of an
individual is lessened with youth and/or lean body weight (muscle vs. body fat), and that's another reason why it's so important to maintain muscle
throughout life. From a performance training strategy perspective for runners, I would suggest consider training with the strategy of maximizing HGH
release (except on really hot days or on the one-long-run-a-week day) because this strategy should build muscle to make you faster, and reduce body
fat so you have less to carry. For competitions, and those hot, long-training days, I'd suggest using the quick recovery strategy of 1 to 4 ratio of
protein to carbs, because in this instance, your body does not care what the quality of glucose is; it just needs glucose."
So basically if you're not terribly overweight, and are working out at high intensity, it's best to take carbs and protein directly after workout
sessions. If you are overweight, and have metabolic syndrome, then your goals are different (fat loss). This is when you should limit carbs post
workout.
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