Youtube's lunar tower madness by saintsdola!, page 2

Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by warlok

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My advice: Fix the cam (no movement), use tracking and record footage for X secs./mins. and than stack the frames. That shoold clear up the atmospheric distortion quite a bit

Don't be ridiculous. Even if he knew what that meant, it would make the tower disappear.

Not hard to understand. And the tower disappear? Isn´t that what you want? That would pretty much clear it up right?

However if it doesn´t dissapear... what would that say about you?

According to Dr. Peter Beter, that tower might be the ruins of the U.S particle beam base that was destroyed by the russian particle beam satellite at the end of the 70-ties.

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reply to post by NeoVain

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Not hard to understand. And the tower disappear? Isn´t that what you want? That would pretty much clear it up right?

However if it doesn´t dissapear... what would that say about you?

It's not a question of what I want. If the tower were really there, there would be over 200 years of observations of it. Exercise your common sense please.

Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by NeoVain

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Not hard to understand. And the tower disappear? Isn´t that what you want? That would pretty much clear it up right?

However if it doesn´t dissapear... what would that say about you?

It's not a question of what I want. If the tower were really there, there would be over 200 years of observations of it. Exercise your common sense please.

So what would be the problem in overlaying the video on itself then? Can´t hurt to try right?

Just curious, what would you say if it didn´t disappear, but instead appeared in brilliant clarity with all the bells and whistles? Would that crush your world view?

reply to post by luciddream

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Pictures of the tower posted by ChaoticOrder on the other thread HERE

reply to post by gortex

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I guess someone could do 20 print screens on that vid, overlay the pictures with each other exactly on top of each other with one of the more stable craters as the reference point, and see if the tower disappears.... should clear up some of the fogginess at least.

To bad i dont have photoshop or i would do it myself.

reply to post by NeoVain

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The vid is too compressed and fuzzy for Photoshop to reveal anything but the lossy compression. Funny, when I went to see if the whole sky was black it wasn't, and in some angles and levels of focus it was clear to see the shadow was unrelated to the highlight.

In short, it's not one object, its a combination of light direction, light angle, and perspective of proximity, some like to call parallax.

I have a question for telescope folks, how does a video camera zoom work through a telescope?

I believe they call that virtual zoom, like those tiny cameras that have a focal length of 1 or 2 inches that say they have 30x zoom, that's not real zoom, its virtual zoom, like enlarging an already imaged image.

reply to post by Illustronic

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Virtual zoom? You mean Digital zoom right? Cause that is just enlarging the picture of something to make it more "pixelated". The terminology Virtual zoom isn´t even on google except as peoples nickname.

Applying one optical zoom after an other is still optical zoom, and seems to work fine.

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reply to post by NeoVain

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So what would be the problem in overlaying the video on itself then? Can´t hurt to try right?

All the blurry parts would reinforce each other and it would get blurrier. When stacking a planetary image series, one chooses the clearest bits from the best frames.

Just curious, what would you say if it didn´t disappear, but instead appeared in brilliant clarity with all the bells and whistles? Would that crush your world view?

That is a moot question.

reply to post by NeoVain

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The only way to get a larger zoom is to increase the focal length of the telescope or the reflecting mirror size, using a digital camera zoom behind the telescope doesn't do that, which is why we see such poor quality in the zooms. It didn't make a bigger telescope. I likely just magnified the atmospheric distortion.

reply to post by saintsdola

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Thanks for sharing. I'm currently in the process of saving up for a telescope & accessories so I can jump on the moon recording bandwagon myself.


This could be a good option for yourself in regards to getting some more stable footage of the moons surface - www.ozscopes.com.au... which enables you to be able to view & capture live video on your computer screen.

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