Originally posted by NWOwned
OMG, it's 2012, you're not all still going on about "Controlled Demolitions" and "Collapses" are you? Seriously?

At any rate, it's a new year and so I'm trying to look at 9/11 again with fresh eyes after taking Christmas off.

What occurs to me now is a thought, and that is, that the popular 'slips' of the tongues, i.e. "Pull it.", "Flight 93 shot down.", "Missile." were no such unconscious accidental slips at all!

Take Lucky Larry's infamous and much quoted/discussed "Pull it."

Let's say the towers were not Controlled Demolitions at all and that therefore looking for the evidence of it would prove futile. Why then that's perfect you see? You know it wasn't Controlled Explosives so you can throw in a Demolition term like "Pull it" 'by accident', by careless mistake etc. But, not really. It's perfect. No one is ever going to find any evidence of CD so if you let it 'slip' it just looks like that's what it REALLY was, when in fact it was no such thing... Clever, very clever. No?

I mean, why just assume it's a 'slip' (as everyone thus far has done AFAIK) and not that it was intentionally said?

Now you're going to ask me, "Well, if it wasn't Controlled Demolition, why try to indicate that (ultra cleverly) if the Official Story says 'Gravity Collapse'." Right? Why?

Why try to muddy it with a slip? A slip that clearly leads in the direction of CD?

How many of you think, or have ever even considered the possibility, that Lucky Larry said "Pull it" on purpose?


Cheers, and Happy New Year!

Oh, and the BBC's newsreader's foreknowledge that building 7 was coming down was also a slip of the tongue eh?! NOT!

Originally posted by spoor

Originally posted by impressme
such as there were no explosion, there were no remote control aircraft, and there was no demolition at the WTC and so on…

you "forget" how the real world works,

"Those making silly claims have to back those silly claims up"

Which truthers are unable to do, so all they can do is make sillier and sillier claims about 9/11 not based on any facts at all!

Well I dont see you or any of the other paid disinfo agents providing much real data to back up your theories! At least the OP has provided a lot of factual information. You dont need to have been the building designer to understand the laws of physics. Can you explain all the flaws and omissions in NISTs weak report?

It's funny how the OS believers/disinfo agents only pick at petty things and totally ignore all the posts that provide genuine evidence! I guess it's because you cannot argue with hard evidence!

You are just selectively replying to bits, and if you think you know so much, then address EVERY post in detail.

Originally posted by malcr

Originally posted by _BoneZ_
And then there are the (3.) ejections of dust/debris:

The towers exhibited all four signs of controlled demolition as outlined above. But, I'm going to add a fifth sign: smoke coming off the ends of columns due to just being severed with explosives.

You are having a laugh! Come on. How come all the footage I look at on Youtube NOT ONE shows any debris being ejected as shown in the above still ? How come , on that right hand still, the debris just happens to be ejected at the most easily photoshopped CORNER against a plain background. How come the side of the building (with the windows and weakest area ie glass) shows NO sign of ejected debris? How come the corner facing us (far harder to photoshop) has no debris being ejected?

NB the lower the resolution the easier to edit hence why I have concentrated on the right hand still. Anyone with photoshop or gimp(me) can create the left hand effect!

Sorry but that is a doctored image (and no doubt the video). You have been conned.

edit on 14/1/12 by malcr because: spelling

see the video ofthe collapse a couple of pages back and you will see what you are looking for, and it's on the front not the corner. Besides, if something was photoshopped it would not matter where it was. Alas, there was no photoshopping going on, videos provided by the media would not contain photoshopped ejections! D'oh!

Originally posted by 4hero
Dont use what is already known to you as your guide. This is the government we are talking about, they have secret technology that we dont know about. Conventional methods we know of were probably not used.

This is typical of everyone who knows nothing about demolition but wants a conspiracy. There is no evidence of demolitons so it must be super secret stuff akin to magic. Why must there be a demolition? Because some people really want one.

The challenge is still there for you. Describe the number and location of charges. Describe how the charges would be wired and how the demolition would be controlled. If you can't do that then you have no actual theory --you have a personal belief with no compelling argument for a theory.

slightly off topic....

People lie...every day.
Governments are made up off people.
Governments lie every day. It has been proven number of times.
Presidents lie. Also proven number of times.

A lie is interwoven in our society. It is almost a normal thing. It's normal not to fully inform the public. Normal to feed the public info in order to gain support for popular issues.

Having this in mind...I don't trust your/mine or any government. It is not here to give you the truth, it here to rule a group of people (nation). There a number of reasons to enter politics, and the most rare of which is, to help people, to justly rule. That's a fairytale. People get in to politics to become rich, or to become richer, or to be more powerful than they already are. All other motives are slowly consumed by the machinery.

It is a well known fact that certain members of a society profit from wars. They play both fields. Sell arms to your army, that sell it to the opposing army. They serve only themselves. Some of those people buy off senators, and congressmen, government officials, agents...to promote their profit mongering.

This is not wild speculation. It has happened before, and it will always happen.

So, having calculated the immense impact of the event. A global impact...you would trust the OS?

Why? Because surely they are not lying this time...this time it's different. As it is every other time...


I don't have proof of 9/11 conspiracy...I don't need it...I do have my common sense to accept the possibility of a cover up...because there is a clear motive to do so, and a hard undeniable fact the president at the time, is...was...and will be a liar (fact). That same man was a busyness partner of a man who is a prime suspect for the attack (fact).

All i'm saying...it stinks. You people of America should be voicing loudly...

I have read alot of the structural failure of tower 1 and 2 and have noticed something that seems to have slipped past almost unnoticed. Even here.

In the first WTC attack the terrorist used a truck bomb planted in the sub level parking garage.

What I remember is that the crater was (and I may be a little off) at least 3 levels deep and very large across.

Now why do I remember this and view it as important?

The devistation at possibly one of the buildings weak point with no collapse.

Lets look at this example.

Take refrigerator Perry from the 1986 bears (yes I know people are not steel buildings but bear with me). He was a very big and stout guy. I am no slouch at 6'2" 220. But even if I wind up and hit him square in the chest with my fist it would be unlikely to knock him over.

Now even taking 2/3 that force if I hit him in the side of the knee hes going down like a sack of potato's.

Now where this causes me to question the official report is we had a bomb that went off near the buildings main supports in the underground parking garage. The pictures showed one heck of a big and deep crater caused by it.
The building did not even show any loss of structural integrity (that we know of).

Now here comes a plain that is not much bigger or much more fuel that a 707. A plane the builders "guarentee" it could take. Then both towers fell to just one strike from the 737.

Suspicious to say the least.

IMO I think there is a conspiracy. But not what others think.

I think the building in some way was flawed. Either the diesigners were decieving us that it was designed the way they said. Or more tragic it was never built to their specifications. Where short cuts in inspections, or outright non -compliance to plans were done.

Unless "say a plane" hit it no one would know the truth.

Just an idea