"Racism" is 100% natural, and is not evil. Homogenization is.

Why will no one address my points?

reply to post by antonia


Mixed race individuals are who they are and there is nothing anyone can do about it. We do not need to treat them in any negative way; I even have a mixed race cousin, but we do have to stop mixing races. This is not done through law and sure there will always be some people who decide to do it, but the practice should be so discouraged in the future by social norms that most people would just rather not do that. Plus people would be less willing to mix races if they were taught to love their own race and heritage.

As for genetic diseases I am not sure that would be a big problem, Europeans had been breeding almost exclusively within their own ethnic groups for over a thousand years and the only people to develop serious mutations/diseases were the royalty (Habsburg Jaw). Seeing as how there are 10,000,000 Hungarians for instance, it seems rather unlikely that you cannot find a good genetic match.

EDIT: I never said Hungarians were a race, they are my ethnic group. I am ethnically Hungarian, racially European (White), and nationality American.

Originally posted by Starchild23

Racism is neither evil nor unnatural.

It is according to the anti-white PC state religion that runs all white countries-but only if you are a white "racist"!

You will be labeled as a devil-worshipper ("Hitlerite"-naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews),you will be fired from your job,and in some countries even imprisoned for this "crime".

It does`nt matter what you think,what matters is what`s being ENFORCED by the anti-white PC state religion.

In the anti-white PC religion it is OBLIGATORY to be anti-white and to support white genocide.

Whites are told by the anti-white PC state religion that white demographic elimination via mass immigration and "assimilation" is "a good thing" without any explanation as to why it is "a good thing".

There is no logical rationale for why the non-existence of whites is "a good thing".It is a religious belief requiring indoctrination from a young age by an "anti-racist" priesthood of politicians,educators,and media operatives.

Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

Originally posted by Spengler55

Originally posted by Starchild23

Racism is neither evil nor unnatural.

It is according to the anti-white PC state religion that runs all white countries-but only if you are a white "racist"!

You will be labeled as a devil-worshipper ("Hitlerite"-naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews),you will be fired from your job,and in some countries even imprisoned for this "crime".

It does`nt matter what you think,what matters is what`s being ENFORCED by the anti-white PC state religion.

In the anti-white PC religion it is OBLIGATORY to be anti-white and to support white genocide.

Whites are told by the anti-white PC state religion that white demographic elimination via mass immigration and "assimilation" is "a good thing" without any explanation as to why it is "a good thing".

There is no logical rationale for why the non-existence of whites is "a good thing".It is a religious belief requiring indoctrination from a young age by an "anti-racist" priesthood of politicians,educators,and media operatives.

Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

Racism has been labeled as 'evil' because people have used it for evil purposes. If racism had simply been as harmless as stereotyping, it would not be considered evil. But since crimes are committed on a racist basis, well...

Isn't it obvious?

reply to post by Misoir


I don't think you understand how genetic diseases work. As you breed in a population it gets closer in closer unless outside DNA is introduced. After several generations you are going to be talking about an inbred populace. It doesn't matter if you are talking 10,000,000. If they keep breeding among each other for generations then any genetic faults are likely to become amplified.

"Europeans had been breeding almost exclusively within their own ethnic groups for over a thousand years and the only people to develop serious mutations/diseases were the royalty"

Untrue, there are many races within Europe who have been screwing each other for years. Vikings raped everyone they could, as did the Germanic tribes. The English are a mixed lot of several different tribes. Europeans have been mixing for years. There is no modern European "pure race", even the much vaunted Nordics are not pure. "White" isn't good enough as there are subtypes among whites.

Originally posted by Misoir

Originally posted by Starchild23
Racism is neither evil nor unnatural. But it is as dangerous as a gun, which is also neither evil nor "unnatural". It simply has bad uses, just like racism.

I love that analogy! Racism (which I do not personally support) is like a gun in that it is meant for protection, of your specific people, but much like a gun can be used for evil ends (genocide, persecution).

The same argument that was used to disarm the populations of many countries and who are now are being preyed on by armed criminals.

The same argument is used by the internet censors to censor the internet.

Meanwhile no one is allowed to defend the group rights of white children to have a continued existence because of so-called "anti-racism" and thereby white children are projected to be minoritized in their own countries and then eventually eliminated altogether.

Question for the so-called "anti-racists":

At what percentage of the global population,or of our respective national populations will you suddenly say it`s alright for us white people to defend our continued existence and say no to mass non-white immigration and "assimilation" like all the non-white countries do?

Prove that you`re not anti-white,prove that you`re aim is not white genocide!

Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

Originally posted by Misoir
What you described is racialism and self - determination. I am not sure what your political persuasion is but in my lonely camp of 'Alt Right' Paleoconservatism this is what we believe and get hammered for being racists because we come out and say it. We have tried to explain it the best way possible but always get slapped down with the racism card, which is unfortunate. But you have explained it better than anyone I have ever met and if I could give you a giant hug to thank you, that still would not show my appreciation and gratitude.

People, we are racialists and not racists. We do not hold our views out of hate towards others but love towards our people. Just as you would want to see your family name carry on into the future so too would we want to see our ethnicity and race, centered around a particular culture, carry onward into the future. I do not think this is too much to ask for. There is no beauty in this world if we are all one color and one culture united around consumerism, materialism, and subservient to the global masters who are dragging us into this frightening situation.

Thank you, and you are most welcome.

I guess Im closest to a Libertarian, and/or Constitutionalist... but perhaps those could be one in the same. But I dont really label myself often. Basically, I support liberty and freedom and the right to live in ones own way, with whomever one chooses, so long as its not interfering with anyone elses to a substantial degree. Like what America was founded on. It was a grand idea then, and is just as much as grand idea today, that is slowly slipping away from us.

Originally posted by Starchild23
Racism has been labeled as 'evil' because people have used it for evil purposes

I assume you are aware of the communists killing tens of millions of people.

They said they were "anti-racists".

So how come so-called "anti-racism" is not being labeled as as evil as well?


Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

Originally posted by antonia
There is no modern European "pure race"

This is yet another anti-white strawman.

"Purity" is a non-issue because no one is saying any ethnic or racial group is 100% pure.

That does not mean that you have the moral or legal authority to target them for elimination/homogenization/genocide.

The purpose of this strawman argument is to imply that white people don`t belong to a racial grouping and therefore can be targeted for elimination/homogenization/genocide.

There are no so-called "anti-racists" telling non-white ethnic or racial groups they have no right to defend their existence around the world because "they are not pure".

Tell us antonia,what is your motivation for making these misleading statements on this thread?

Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by old_god
Yes, it happens on both sides of the fence because the native English people did a good job of teaching the generations how to hate.

Equally the ethnic minorities did a poor job of trying to integrate into British life (some, some families like my own made a contribution to society and we carry on doing so).

(i) An 'Asian' in Bradford is 4 times as likely to make a racially motivated attack as a white person.

(iii) A black Bradford person is three times as likely to launch physcial racially motivated attack as a white person.

(iii) A person who is from an ethnic minority in the UK is 35 times more likely to wound someone in a racially motivated attack than a white person.

But according to you, 'native English people' teach other white people to hate while immigrants just do a bad job of integrating!

Wow.

Don't let the facts get in the way of your predjudices.

edit on 14-1-2012 by ollncasino because: fix formatting

Don't misquote me, you know exactly what I said.

Bradistan as we like to call it, is full of criminals so the majority of "white hating pakis" you speak of are generally criminals, thugs, the type of people with very little education.

The white aggressors I am referring to are the ones who many decades ago got the ball rolling so please don't act coy about this fact. I agreed that the roles are reversed now, a tragic result of the hatred that has passed on from one group of people to another.

But by your logic a person who is from an ethnic minority is 35 times more likely to wound someone in racially motivated attack, meaning that I should have by now, wounded everyone in my place of work, my best friends and my cousins brother-in-law (who is, wait for it, white).

I think you need to look at your own prejudices.

There are real hard working British Blacks and Asians in the UK, who feel the same about the country. I am one of those people, I support the country and want a future for it, I also feel the pain of immigration as it's pissed all over the future I was saving for.

But by your mentality and people like you, you would rather have everyone out, fine. I only have to look at the run of in bred white families with a dozen kids on the dole to know where the future of the UK lies...and I am damned for making such an assumption.

Originally posted by graphuto
Just read through the whole thread here, seems it was derailed almost the whole time, but entertaining at least.

In response to the OP:

What place does "multiculturalism" have in today's world? No matter where a person is located, they want to eat, sleep, have shelter, be entertained, and be loved.

I see multiculturalism used in different ways. Youll need to define exactly how you are using the word.

Originally posted by graphuto

Why do people insist on clinging to their past "cultures?" I was born in America; I am of Irish, Germanic, and Native American descent, as far as I know. Do I waste time trying to be Irish, Germanic, or Native? No. Why would I? We're all here, now, as Americans, working, eating, sleeping, entertaining, and loving/being loved.

Why does it bother you that others take a different stance than you on cultural pride? If you choose to have none, thats OK. Perfectly fine. But dont tell others they are wrong if they choose the other option.

Originally posted by graphuto
To any other white men that are espousing their culture, please define for me what your culture is, exactly...

Why you would immediately assume that I am white and male without my stating such is very revealing of the common mindset that is drilled into the heads of Western societies members. I never said anything about being white, or male, on ATS ever. In fact, my entire OP made no specific mention that it referred to any one culture, but was quite specific in saying that ALL cultural identities are worthy of preservation, and that it does not make a person "racist" if they like who they are, and who their ancestors were, NO MATTER WHAT COLOR/CULTURE/CREED THEY HAPPEN TO BE.

Originally posted by CaticusMaximus

I see multiculturalism used in different ways. Youll need to define exactly how you are using the word.

ideastations.org...-883

Why are people of diverse cultures moving to the Richmond Region? What is the impact? The entire “multicultural” (all non-Caucasion) population in Chesterfield County increased by 60,456 people from 2000-2010, a 65.88% percent increase.

It is used all the time by politicians,media,and academia as a codeword for fewer and fewer white people.They are always pushing for ever-more "multiculturalism" i.e pushing for fewer whites i.e pushing white genocide.

Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

The anti-Whites here are text book. I seriously recommend anyone White and normal reads over this whole thread so they can get a handle on how the anti-White mind works.

I'll make it simple. Everything they type can be distilled down to "There are too many White people! They are the root of all evil. We must blend then out of existence using massive immigration and forced assimilation"

They prove time and time again that anti-racism is just a code word for anti-White

I wonder if an anti-White will take up the anti-White challenge today. We didn't have many players yesterday-only one despite it being set up almost ten times.

Heres the question....

A simple yes or no answer is all i ask:

Do you agree that all races. Be it Blacks in Africa, Asians in Asia, or Whites in Europe, have an equal right to ensure the survival of their own race and cultures in their own countries?

Humans have a right to exist in so much as they are here and rights are theories we take into practice for better social governance. Race is subject to its ability to survive(if by race you mean culture). The human species should be more important and made to survive though, without that we wouldn't have any races. just fossils.

The species doesn't need for us to be the same blob though. I think I stated why diversity is necessary for greater survivability.

Originally posted by casenately
Humans have a right to exist in so much as they are here and rights are theories we take into practice for better social governance. Race is subject to its ability to survive(if by race you mean culture). The human species should be more imortant and made to survive though, without that we wouldn't have any races. just fossils.

The species doesn't need for us to be the same blob though. I think I stated why diversity is necessary for greater survivability.

But anti-racists aren't out protesting that African countries need more diversity

Anti-racists aren't out protesting that China needs more diversity

They aren't out protesting that Japan needs more diversity

They are not out in Israel protesting that Israel needs more diversity.

They only demand this of EVERY White country

Everyone White and normal is realizing that "diversity" is just a code word for "too many White people" aka White Genocide

Anti-racism is just a code word for anti-White

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This tends to be my opinion as well. The idea that we are someday going to be some homogeneous population with no differences is hyperbolic. It's impossible, even among animal populations it doesn't happen.

reply to post by mr1alphaalpha


so if you want to say things that have nothing to do with
1. your question
and
2. what I said

then just start a thread about it. I dont know why you need us to validate your claims?

I see you want to put words in my mouth and to be polite I will say this:

we should not answer loaded questions pushing race war or xenophobia.
we should ignore repeated requests to pull us into validating claims that are
1. off topic
2. fully loaded with rhetoric and fear
3. lame

reply to post by casenately


Are you saying you think non White countries need more diversity? Lets take Israel as an example. Do you think there are too many Jews in Israel? Do you think it should be more diverse? We could bring in millions of Africans and assimilate them with the Jews. Encourage them to breed with the Female Jews, set up special rights and privileges for them so they are not discriminated against. We could ensure that traditionally Jewish schools in Israel were made more diverse by bringing in African students. How does that sound?

Originally posted by antonia
The idea that we are someday going to be some homogeneous population with no differences is hyperbolic.

But you so-called "anti-racists" refuse to allow white people to defend our continued existence as a group because of so-called "anti-racism",so how can whites avoid the homogenization/genocide agenda being forced on all white countries and ONLY white countries?

BTW,you have not answered:

My question above:

At what percentage of the global population or of our respective national populations will you so-called "anti-racists" allow us white people to defend our continued existence by saying no to mass immigration and "assimilation" like all the non-white countries do?

Prove to us that you are not anti-white and pushing white genocide.

Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

I see you want to put words in all our mouths and to be polite I will say this:

we should not answer loaded questions pushing race war or xenophobia.
we should ignore repeated requests to pull us into validating claims that are

1. off topic
2. fully loaded with rhetoric and fear
3. lame

repeating something over and over doesn't change the validity of its claim