hey - a pet peeve of mine is the delusion that a fire arm is the key to survival

please abandon this delusion

a firearm will not :

locate potable water

locate foragable vegitation

locate game

assist your attepmt to navigate from way point A to waypoint B

etc etc etc

a firearm has many uses - but it is not a panecea

please realise that you need several vital skill sets to survive

a firearm will assist and enhance somoe oth them

dont use the fiearm as a crutch

It sure as hell will help protect those things if you already have them.....

Firearms make Excellent crutches and splints, plus rappelling T bars, dragging T bars, nutt crackers, Etc, there are many other uses for firearms other than the obvious and you can still trade them and their ammo for food and women

Ask the Iraqi army from the 90s how effective fire arms are against a technological military force that the US military has. If martial law was enforced in the USA and we tried standing up against it, I highly doubt our guns are going to be that much help to us against a dumbed down, brainwashed force so massive.

The only things guns are useful for are protecting ourselves from criminals and large wild animals attacking, the police and military aren't worried about our guns, they have lasers and satellites and energy weapons that could render us all impotent.

With a firearm i can disarm unsuspecting hostile personnel at great distances and retrieve vital survival supplies, plus quickly gain access to locked doorways and the hostile people hiding behind them, if I'm out of ammo i can fashion my weapon into many different useful implements that are just as affective and still have enough material left to use as a smaller version of the same thing

its true without a brain you're useless, but with a brain and a firearm you have a greater chance at success

However, there are a lot of situations where a firearm would be handy as hell, especially in more volatile regions. You make an excellent point though that firearms are a crutch and that the most important things to have are skills and basics

Thanks for the Thread. I also feel the same way about all this Gold hoarding, exactly what will it be worth when food and water are what people need desperately. I would not trade either for Gold.

100% agree.
a gun would be a useful thing to have but it's not key to survival.
whats wrong with a spear and a good throwing arm to hunt, you know like we used to do before tescos.

First, thank you for this post...it's intersting.

I'm an American and it's my Constitutional Right to own a gun to protect my country from enemies foreign and domestic. If my life or my loved one's lives are in danger I have a right to protect myself and them.

I WILL NOT BE A SLAVE! I AM A FREE MAN!! Given life from God not government!

The garbage you see on the MSM about drive-by shootings, etc is to dissuade people from owning firearms...those individuals are irresponisble...I learned something a long time ago...guns don't kill people...people kill people. A good person will only use a firearm to protect not murder and if you think shooting someone out of protection is murder then ask the 18 year old mom in Oklahoma who stopped a lunatic from harming her and her 3 month old son...that's not murder....that's survival.

I don't know what country you live in, but in America our Founding Fathers set forth our rights to be free and before our very eyes it is being stripped away. I pray everyday for a PEACEFUL miracle. Thank you.

You'll need the weapons to protect yourself, and your belongings once a SHTF...look at Katrina. They are not the only thing to have, but I have read where some say, thats all they are getting for a SHTF...reason is they think they will take by force whatever they need. I hope it never happens.
I do not agree with there thought process on this. ..I do think you should have something for protection..if it does happen though.
If you think this world is going to be one big happy place and we all sit around, singing peacfully...your crazy. Its not sunshine, rainbows, and lollipops out there. To many people want what the guy down the street has...many don't wanna work for it, they feel they are entitled to it...thats just wrong.