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Unearthed by a Black Reporter: Fact - Ron Paul voted NAY to MLK DAY

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posted on Jan, 11 2012 @ 05:04 PM
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I am thinking it may be a smear designed to eliminate him from the GOP race so he doesn't debate POTUS. A liberty loving Constitutionalist against a socialist Marxist....I want to see that debate big time.




posted on Jan, 11 2012 @ 05:55 PM
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To insinuate that he would deliberately cut programs to punish people is one of the most uninformed things I've read here. Socialism doesn't really help the poor, it just makes them dependent on an overly controlling, all-pervasive, Totalitarian State, and why would someone who preserves liberty even think of entertaining more and more socialism?




And you call me uninformed? Sorry, Buddy, you've drunk so much of the Kool-aid you aren't even thinking straight. When this group talks about "helping the people", you know they only consider "people" to be their billionaire cronies and corporations, don't you?

Nah, I guess you don't. There is a difference in helping people in need and be in a state of "Socialism", but I see ya like the drama.



posted on Jan, 11 2012 @ 07:04 PM
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Originally posted by angeldoll
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To insinuate that he would deliberately cut programs to punish people is one of the most uninformed things I've read here. Socialism doesn't really help the poor, it just makes them dependent on an overly controlling, all-pervasive, Totalitarian State, and why would someone who preserves liberty even think of entertaining more and more socialism?




And you call me uninformed? Sorry, Buddy, you've drunk so much of the Kool-aid you aren't even thinking straight. When this group talks about "helping the people", you know they only consider "people" to be their billionaire cronies and corporations, don't you?

Nah, I guess you don't. There is a difference in helping people in need and be in a state of "Socialism", but I see ya like the drama.



I'm not a "buddy". And yes you are one of the most sadly uninformed people I've seen online. Star Parker is well known for her work in the private sector. Where did I advocate not helping people? I just have said that Statism is just not a good long term solution. You need to study Karl Marx and the Communist Manifesto before you attack me as a kool aid drinker. At least I bother to understand what I am talking about. You obviously believe the bull that republicans are nothing but corporatists. Marxists make the mistake of lumping all Capitalists into the same category. You should know that the very same Democratic Socialists in Congress who are promoting socialism are the very ones who are extremely wealthy and will never be touched by any of the horrid policies they are legislating.

quote from Reagan
"How do you tell a communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin."
Ronald Reagan

"Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. "
Ronald Reagan

For your perusal, a blog commentary on Denmark, which is often touted by leftists as a wonderful socialist country

socialismdoesntwork.com...


Here is another great blog commentary on the failure of socialism


Socialism is the Big Lie of the twentieth century. While it promised prosperity, equality, and security, it delivered poverty, misery, and tyranny. Equality was achieved only in the sense that everyone was equal in his or her misery.


Socialism does not work because it is not consistent with fundamental principles of human behavior. The failure of socialism in countries around the world can be traced to one critical defect: it is a system that ignores incentives.
In a capitalist economy, incentives are of the utmost importance. Market prices, the profit-and-loss system of accounting, and private property rights provide an efficient, interrelated system of incentives to guide and direct economic behavior. Capitalism is based on the theory that incentives matter!
Under socialism, incentives either play a minimal role or are ignored totally. A centrally planned economy without market prices or profits, where property is owned by the state, is a system without an effective incentive mechanism to direct economic activity. By failing to emphasize incentives, socialism is a theory inconsistent with human nature and is therefore doomed to fail. Socialism is based on the theory that incentives don’t matter!
In a radio debate several months ago with a Marxist professor from the University of Minnesota, I pointed out the obvious failures of socialism around the world in Cuba, Eastern Europe, and China. At the time of our debate, Haitian refugees were risking their lives trying to get to Florida in homemade boats. Why was it, I asked him, that people were fleeing Haiti and traveling almost 500 miles by ocean to get to the "evil capitalist empire" when they were only 50 miles from the "workers’ paradise" of Cuba?
The Marxist admitted that many "socialist" countries around the world were failing. However, according to him, the reason for failure is not that socialism is deficient, but that the socialist economies are not practicing "pure" socialism. The perfect version of socialism would work; it is just the imperfect socialism that doesn’t work. Marxists like to compare a theoretically perfect version of socialism with practical, imperfect capitalism which allows them to claim that socialism is superior to capitalism.

www.thefreemanonline.org...

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