Someone suggested that I stop by this thread, that I might be interested in it. I am, but I'm also saddened by it. It appears that there is only a
little interest in discussing the topic of the opening post. I can only guess that people saw the words "Gay marriage" and "Pope" and fell into
familiar patterns of name calling and hatred. That's easy enough to do, but I would ask you to stop following the old ruts of anger and explore love
Let's go back to the source article
Gay marriage is one of several threats to the traditional family unit that undermines 'the future of
humanity itself', Pope Benedict XVI warned yesterday.
He is simply saying that there are several threats to the traditional family unit and that
gay marriage is just one of them. Since a gay family is not "a traditional family unit," his comment is neither surprising or wrong.
pontiff told diplomats from nearly 180 countries that the education of proper of children needed proper 'settings' and that 'pride of place goes to
the family, based on the marriage of a man and a woman.'
As far as I know, that is still the general opinion of modern science.
'This is not a simple social convention, but rather the fundamental cell of every society.
'Consequently, policies which undermine the family threaten human dignity and the future of humanity itself. The family unit is fundamental for the
educational process and for the development both of individuals and states.
'Hence there is a need for policies which promote the family and aid social cohesion and dialogue.'
Can we argue that the family is not the
fundamental cell of society? Or does anyone wish to argue for
policies which weaken instead of strengthen the family?
There may be room for discussion here, but not for hatred. And so many side issues were introduced in this thread:
Irrelevance? Even the article states that some people are leaving other denominations for the Catholic Church because of their denomination's
position on gay marriage.
Hates gays? Homophobia? Wants to see gays in hell? Those are all obviously false The consistent position of the Church is that gays are loved, and
it wants to see gays saved from Hell.
The Church sex scandal? Sure, a terrible thing. In the US the percentage of priests who were alleged
to have sex with minors was 4%, the same
as in the American population as a whole. A kid was as safe with a priest as with the average American. It was nothing unique to the Church.
The cover-up? Their may have been cover-ups out of fear and guilt, I don't know, but the Church was following the best medical advice at the time.
They were relying on science.
Nazis? Oh, please.
Oh, my opinion? I see homosexuality as similar to a lot of other human traits. For just one example, pick greed. There may be a greed gene, greed
may be introduced through upbringing or the environment. I want greedy people to have eternal life in heaven, but greedy acts are going to get in the
way of that. I'm perfectly prepared to say greedy acts are wrong, and not resisting impulses to act greedily is wrong. (Yes, there may be some
confusion here between wrong and sinful, but I wasn't being completely precise.)
I'd really enjoy talking this over, but I'm not much of a shouter or hater.