Originally posted by bjarneorn

Originally posted by ManFromEurope

Not proven from your side

Proof? that is the easy part.

Have you ever seen lava? when the magma inside the earth, rises to the surface it takes with it stuff from the mantle and this is called lava. When the lava reaches the surface, something very important happens ... the lavea is filled with microscopic holes ... because the plasmatic stuff, becomes gas and goes into the atmosphere.

Then it should be detectable around vulcanoes, right? Oh, yes, it was detected - in the same volumes as expected by the observed lightnings, which produce plasma on their own.

However, inside the earth ... the magma is not in a a "gaseous" state, it is in a much denser state, far denser than the mantle ... meaning, that the magma must "expand".

Then it's not a plasma. Plasma per definitionem is in a gaseous state. Could you describe the features of your magma?

You are just ignoring the obvious ... first you ignore the obvious of the continents connecting. Then you ignore the obvious of the magma reaching gaseous state ... cooling magma will expand. Dense plasma, that cools ... will expand. This is an obvious truth ...

"Obvious" is a word used by those who can't prove something, either by lazyness or by the impossibility of doing so.
It is NOT obvious that magma reaches gaseous state. Do you even know how plasma is created and maintains its state? Its not like electricity stored in a battery, plasma recombines as soon as the energy which departed it in ions and electrons is gone. What kind of energy holds the earths core plasma in its state?

In fact, why should cooling magma expand? Name one kind of matter (in plasmatic or any other state) which expands when cooling, besides water (which has a well known and well understood anomaly by 4°C).

You are denying facts ...

You are living on another plane of existence, I guess. I'm not denying facts, tell me one and give me proove and justification for that fact.
* I state that there is no measurable amount of plasma in lava or magma.
* I state that magma consist of molten rocks and elements.
* I state that your magma-plasma with its features, which are highly contradictionary to any observed volcanoe-eruption or geological perceptions (like seismic waves etc.) are NOT a fact.

Originally posted by bjarneorn

Originally posted by St Udio

your idea would fit with the old notion that the pre-flood sky was a dense canopy of water
and the oceans only came about after the rains fell big time & remained 99% in the sea floors and only 1% recycling into the sky or icesheets on a daily basis...

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You are not going to give birth to a jellyfish, so it can slip away from the cops in a slippery sense ... but, the plasmatic body of the earth and it's changes, can trigger genetic changes ... and the changes in environment, can change the altered species chances of survival ... it's called evolution.
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Proposition? Check.
Prove? Uhm, no check..
You can't go around and state that some "plasmatic body of the earth" (which is completely unproven) triggers genetic changes (which is also completely unproven).
Normal plasma won't do that, its not radiating or altering your dna in any other way.

Originally posted by bjarneorn

Originally posted by ManFromEurope

Then it should be detectable around vulcanoes, right? Oh, yes, it was detected - in the same volumes as expected by the observed lightnings, which produce plasma on their own.

Now you're just being silly ... the lava comes afterwards ... you are talking about events you don't know about.

The lava comes after what?

Then it's not a plasma. Plasma per definitionem is in a gaseous state. Could you describe the features of your magma?

Again, now you are grasping at straws ... plasma is not a gaseous state. Plasma is the state of the electron ... which describes the electron being in a free states between atoms. The plasma itself, can be gaseous, solid or liquid state ... but the plasma state of matter, is very similar to a magnet.

Give an example for solid plasma (incl. sources). There is no such thing. Plasmas particles are moving independently.

"Obvious" is a word used by those who can't prove something, either by lazyness or by the impossibility of doing so.

No, obvious is used for things that can be observed.

The word you are looking for is "observable", I think..

It is NOT obvious that magma reaches gaseous state. Do you even know how plasma is created and maintains its state? Its not like electricity stored in a battery, plasma recombines as soon as the energy which departed it in ions and electrons is gone. What kind of energy holds the earths core plasma in its state?

What sort of energy keeps the sun intact? one might ask? The density of it? it's made of plasma ... and still the plasma is enormously dense 150g/cm^3. The heat? That is circular arguement ... the density makes it hot, and the heat keeps it together ...

How about gravitation? That keeps the sun together.

Ok, ok ... I am sidetracking with parallel observation ...

We observe the earths magnetic properties. The magma inside the earth reveals electromagnetism as it travels inside the earth. It is an obvious plasmatic state of matter, which can be observed in the flimatation when it reaches the surface. The gases inside the lava, can also be observed from the microscopic holes in it. When you "measure" the lava, it's density is low on the surface, but great underneath ... the difference is the plasma within the lava. The lightning, that is induced, is proof of the electromagnetism that is within the magma itself ... so huge, that it creates tens of thousands of lightning strikes per minute.

You are obscuring your ideas. Magma reveals electromagnetism? How does it do this?

There is gas in magma, but its not plasma, just gas as the temperature is about 1200° C - enough to evaporate many elements. Electric discharges by lightning are produced by the huge mass of granules, as a lightning in a sandstorm does. 10.000 discharges per minute seems a little too high.