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In early November, Sen. Max Baucus, a Montana Democrat, made his own political contribution. Thrilled at the testing of a drone aircraft manufactured in Montana, Baucus declared: "Our troops rely on this type of technology every day, and there is an enormous future potential in border security, agriculture and wildlife and predator management." A manufacturer's representative claimed his company's drone "can tell the difference between a wolf and a coyote." Pilotless drone aircraft used by the CIA and the Air Force to target and kill alleged terrorists now appear to be real options to track and kill "enemy" wolves.
How far we have fallen since the mid-1990s, when we celebrated the wolves' reintroduction. During the 2008 presidential election, candidate Barack Obama declared: "Federal policy toward animals should respect the dignity of animals and their rightful place as cohabitants of the environment. We should strive to protect animals and their habitats and prevent animal cruelty, exploitation and neglect."
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
reply to post by v1rtu0s0
They need to leave the wolves alone theyre going extinct. There used to be lots of wolves in the U.S. but theyre mostly all gone now. Such a shame to what we have done to God's creation.
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
reply to post by v1rtu0s0
They need to leave the wolves alone theyre going extinct. There used to be lots of wolves in the U.S. but theyre mostly all gone now. Such a shame to what we have done to God's creation.
Originally posted by v1rtu0s0
reply to post by ManBehindTheMask
It's sad that the only way to fix our mistakes is to kill everything. We screw up and hunt them to extinction, then we screw up again by failing to reintroduce them properly... Then our solution is to kill them with unmanned drones...
Yeah, sounds like we know what we're doing...
Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
reply to post by v1rtu0s0
They need to leave the wolves alone theyre going extinct. There used to be lots of wolves in the U.S. but theyre mostly all gone now. Such a shame to what we have done to God's creation.
Going extinct?
YOu have no idea what you are talking about.....
I spent 10 years in Idaho, and i can tell you the wolves in the north are NOT going extinct, infact they are growing so wildy out of of control, because of reintroduction.......that they are abandoning their natural instincts..
In the name of "preservation" species of wolves were introduced into Montana and Idaho that were not indigenous to the area, and their populations have become so bad, that they are decimating local wildlife.....
Large game herds are being wiped out throughout the area because of the boom in wolf numbers....
These packs have gone from hunting for food, to hunting and killing and not even eating the prey that they have taken down...they just leave the carcass there........Killing for sport is not natural wolf behavior
People need to do some research in whats going on up there before they start spouting off like they know whats up..
In the short amount of time i was in the area, we went from wolves only being in the panhandle and rarely seen, to the damn things being seen way down in the foothills above Boise, and in numbers........
Were talking wolves that are NOT indigenous to the area, NOT the species that originated in the pacific northwest....
Thats why you can get a hunting license for them now, they are growing out of control
Im all for nature, im all for preservation.........but im NOT for thisedit on 1-1-2012 by ManBehindTheMask because: (no reason given)edit on 1-1-2012 by ManBehindTheMask because: (no reason given)
predator management
Originally posted by Vitchilo
So let's consider two things :
- The cost :
- Predator drone : 3$-10$ million each.
- Hellfire missile : 68 000$
- Cost of training pilots
- Cost of UAV maintenance
- Cost of accidents (forest fires for example)
- The unconstitutionality of it.
This is just an HORRIBLE plan.
Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask
reply to post by CaticusMaximus
You apparently didnt read my post where I stated the strange behavior of these not native wolves, Killing and leaving their prey lay, without eating it.....
Killing for sport............
But then again, i suppose no one is going to listen to anyone who knows whats going on up there, or might have a different point of view other then "coddle, the cuddly wolves"
I think conservation is great, I think protecting species is a must, however im not blind to common sense and real problems either
The Canadian Gray Wolf was introduced as a “nonessential experimental” species as defined by the Endangered Species Act. The ESA only allows the introduction of an “experimental species” when the original native species is extinct. But the Idaho Timberwolf was not extinct; we had about 80 of them. These Timberwolves were documented by recognized experts. No problem for the federal government, they just solved that dilemma by lying. Consequently, the introduction of the Canadian Gray Wolf into Idaho was based on fraud. source
Originally posted by CaticusMaximus
reply to post by ManBehindTheMask
Thank you for the information.