Originally posted by SurrealisticPillow
They are, in fact, innocent in their ignorance.

No, I think you will find ignorance, according to law, is no defence.

A precedence that was set by the Nuremberg war trial.

I stand by that law, and support it.

And I think you would find that Jesus would only say it was okay if they stopped doing it right away, and...you know...repented...

Seems to me that with all the wars going on in the world if you don't have some blood on your hands than you stand for nothing...except denouncing those that do.

OP- You cannot make a simply zero to five scale or however many there were, and base all scores on the military or paying taxes alone. I bet...oh forget it. It isn't worth the time or frustation explaining, because you wouldn't even listen. I'm trying to live a better life through actions and helping others. I am certain that you would be hard pressed to find a person who knows me in real life vice cyber life that has something bad to say about me, and according to you I have so much blood on my hands it drips in my daughters face when I feed her bottle to her. Your post is prejudice/bigotry/stereotyping in its most quintessential form.

Originally posted by bruwin
Seems to me that with all the wars going on in the world if you don't have some blood on your hands than you stand for nothing...except denouncing those that do.

If NATO was employed for the purpose it was supposedly set up for, I would not have a problem supporting it's operations.

If the UK, of which I am a citizen, did not engage and support illegal military operations that contravened the United Nations Bill of Human Rights, I would not have a problem paying income taxes.

If either body upheld the laws and rights that they are charged with preserving, and did so with equality, and without the interests of coporations being allowed to lobby for influence in such operational decision making, none of this would even be an issue though.

Basically this old world order is one big machine, fully greased and filled with many well oiled cogs (us) leading this world into one big world war to usher in the NWO.

If we don't fit in and keep turning (paying taxes, buying merchandise, paying bills) the system will either crush us or permanently remove us from this war machine.

Only faith in Jesus Christ can remove the blood on all of our hands.

Originally posted by SurrealisticPillow
As for the Nuremberg trials, there were many crimes that were not prosecuted, and many other innocent folks that were prosecuted. Justice is not only blind, but hopelessly incompetent.

No it is the people charged to uphold it that are incompetent. And the hyprocrits who believe that there are grey areas that apply to them alone, until that grey area is committed against them. In the instance of Nuremberg Trial, the US prosecution, against all the other national counsels, insisted that ignorance not be allowed as a point of defence. The US also insisted that an individual soldier was responsible for the orders that he carried out, not the person who gave the order. That remains international law. If a soldier, who is probably less likely to have to hand all the fact is guilty, shouldn't the tax payer also bear their brunt of the responsibility...? That is what the Allies insisted Germany do, not once, but twice?

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-1 : I work overtime trying to wake people up to the truth, donning ridicule and personal insults like they are badges of honor. So much so I have no job thus no income to be taxed to the war machine. Full blooded peace monger. Alpha/Omega unit.

Originally posted by Baldryck
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I wouldn't exactly say it was 'cool', but it's your life and you have lived it as you have chosen. If you're happy with those choices, then I am happy for you. I know that there are 'bad guys' and that on occasion, given the world that we live in, someone has to do the dirty job and I am sorry if that had to be you. If those people were more valued for their clinicism and professionalism (given the correct leadership), then there would perhaps be less gung ho spirit and this deluded belief that there is any glory, let alone justification in the murder of unarmed civilians.

And it should not be forgotten, that there are a great number of military units that retain the high degree of discipline and professional ingegrity to go into even the most hostile environment and win over hearts and minds with the minimum of bloodshed. I do not begrudge them their wages or their career choice, my argument is entirely with their paymasters.

I would think supporting the GOP or DNC should be good for a few pints, er points.. lol

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