Israeli President: We are buying up Manhattan, Hungary, Romania and Poland

Originally posted by Helixer

Here is a video of former Israeli president clarifying how extraordinarily wealthy is Israel. The US tax payer gives Israel $15 Billion of free money, 0% interest loans, grants and credit. On top of that, Obama gave Israel a further $30 billion over three years last year..

news.antiwar.com...

With that kind money coming in every year even Somalia would be able to buy up Manhattan, Hungary, Romania and Poland. You don't need "dynamism" to flash cash but gloating requires humility; don't expect that from Israel.

Disagree about 'gloating' it is quite the opposite to 'Humility' nothing in humbleness equates, or requires to be gloating. But otherwise, if the video transcript is correct, the man should have STFU.

reply to post by smurfy


You right about the gloating and humility thing. I should have said "they gloat when they should have humility". I had a concentration failure because I do other things too when on ATS.

I had the same basic response maybe 20+? years ago when the Japanese bought that classic American landmark, Rockefeller Center in NY. People were upset over that and I pointed out "OK, they own it now, so what are they possibility going to do with it? Move it?"

reply to post by Helixer


Israel does NOT get free money from the US. I've said it many times before on these threads.....the USA never hands out free money unless there's a profit to be made and believe you me their industrial military establishment makes plenty of money from trading with Israel. More than any of you realise.

Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by Helixer

 

Israel does NOT get free money from the US. I've said it many times before on these threads.....the USA never hands out free money unless there's a profit to be made and believe you me their industrial military establishment makes plenty of money from trading with Israel. More than any of you realize.

They receive billions in way of loans a grants that are immediately forgiven. Sounds like free money to me.

reply to post by buster2010


I already wrote my peace on another thread about how the U.S. tax payers pay for Israel to begin with through major Financial, and Entertainment companies based here in the United States. Its no surprise that Israel has been getting rich off the American people let alone our Government as well. Even if you cut ties you would still have to get rid of all the big CEO's.

reply to post by reeferman


How about you American corporations put a stop to using foreign workers including children (sometimes forced labor) in third world nations by making enormous profits from them.

I can name some of the worst culprits although the list is a hundred miles long. All your imports marked for the consumer is made by little hands for less than afew dollars and a bowl of rice per month. Among those corporations are Gap, Nike, Puma, Victoria's Secret, Starbucks, Apple, Microsoft, Walmart, Guess, Levi Strauss, GM, designer wear etc etc. Yes, we all know about your sweat shops and manufacturers in Vietnam, India, Africa, South America, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Indonesia, Thailand and China.

Whats worse, we also know about your paedofiles going in to these nations shagging kids and we know about using these poor people as guinea pigs for big pharma......

Your nation exploits these 3rd world nations all for $$$ and you want to stop foreign aid to them? YOU owe them big time! Perhaps we should swap the lazy American for the cheap labor force overseas and see how you like it living in hell holes, abused and working 18 hour days 6 days a week for only afew messily dollars per month ?

Do you Americans have no shame? And unfortunately, the whole Western world is doing it.

When will Christian Republican Americans learn that Israel plays the U.S. like a marionette ?

They have significant influence over our foreign policy in the middle east.

They have significant influence over our politicians as proven through their undisrupted disproportionate monetary and military aid

They have significant influence our media who will always side with Israel whenever conflict occurs or Israel is shown committing human rights violations.

They have significant influence over our citizens.. for a president to even be considered "electable" to the American public they MUST pledge undying support for Israel no matter what. (This is mostly due to the media's pro-Israel propaganda)

We will NEVER stop giving Israel aid. The Israel lobby is extremely powerful.

reply to post by buster2010


It does'nt work that way and you damn well know it. The USA is the most greediest and materialistic nation in the world!

You worry about trade between the USA and Israel including grants and loans while in the same token your federal Govt is bailing out your banks and corporations!

reply to post by Helixer


I keep telling ya but you all are so guilt ridden and mind controlled truth pops out of your head immediately.

The ones who brought Hitler to power and ran the Nazi agenda are in fact the ashkeNAZI Zionists that rule in Israel.
Its a secret society except its so close to your faces you cannot see it.

No if i was truly antisemitic that would mean i am anti-arab. Definitely have no problem with arabs...I know you all hate their guts though. Interesting thing, they still dress up in biblical attire...plus they pray more in one day to God than all the other abrahamic faiths do in a month.

Well of course you are mad...its the truth.

reply to post by bluemirage5

your federal Govt is bailing out your banks and corporations!

You can thank Ben Bernanke for that buddy.

reply to post by bluemirage5

The USA is the most greediest and materialistic nation in the world!

Yeah, well look at my signature, and think about it. The Americas would of been alright if the white man didn't come here to begin with. We evolved the way we did because of the European ideals. So don't feed me garbage

the 30 billion is just an embezzlement scheme designed to funnel money to the defence industry.

the terms of the conditions of the aid is that 75% percent must be used to purchase american weapons and technology and create jobs in america.

75% of $30 billion is $22.5 billion.

so not only is the defence industry scheming billions to develop weapons from the american taxpayers, they are essentially selling the equipment 2 times by purchasing it from themselves thru a third party.

it would be cheaper just to give them the military hardware, than this thinly disguised scam.

the united states spent $687 billion on defence. and all they have to show for it is a hacked drone captured by iran with spare radio shack parts.

Boy you'd think with Obama being a socialist Kenyan Muslim he wouldn't be giving Israel so much money every year...

Wait, could some of that information be fabricated?!?!

I wipe my arse with israel. I hope that hungary, romania, and poland can squash any differences they have, mostly hungary and romania. it is time for the jobbik party to come in and leave an example for all of europe and the rest of the world to follow.

Originally posted by wingsfan
I wipe my arse with israel. I hope that hungary, romania, and poland can squash any differences they have, mostly hungary and romania. it is time for the jobbik party to come in and leave an example for all of europe and the rest of the world to follow.

I think the Hungarian people sent the Israelis packing along with the several hundred IDF soldiers who turned up offering the Hungarians advise.

This is what the Israeli killer were up to;

Israeli spy planes enter Hungary airspace following killing of Syrian national in Budapest
www.ynetnews.com... ^

Posted on 18 March 2010 17:33:43 by jhpigott

'Israeli spy planes flew over Budapest'

Reports about Israeli spy planes entering Hungary follow mysterious killing of Syrian in Budapest

Published: 03.18.10, 18:43 / Israel News

Two Israeli aircraft appearing to be spy planes flew near Budapest's international airport last week but did not land there, Hungarian media reported Thursday.

According to the reports, the planes were on a "spy mission" that may be connected to the assassination of a Syrian national in his vehicle Wednesday in the Hungarian capital.

www.freerepublic.com...

Originally posted by Helixer
humility; don't expect that from Israel.

Your proposal then is that Israelis are inherently incapable of having humility?

Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by buster2010

 

It does'nt work that way and you damn well know it. The USA is the most greediest and materialistic nation in the world!

You worry about trade between the USA and Israel including grants and loans while in the same token your federal Govt is bailing out your banks and corporations!

And what's the difference between the US government bailing out the banks and wall street and aid to Israel? Israel is NOT part of the United States. The money we throw away on that apartheid state is much needed and better spent here in the US. It's time to cut them off and let's see if they can walk the walk like they talk the talk. Besides Israel receives more aid from the world than any other country Israel is by far the greediest nation in the world.

Will some one please point out why this post can be for the most part best defined as "bigots of the world unite, you have nothing to lose but, nothing. Start with nothing all one can do is work their way up"? Everyone just take a deep breath, pop a valium or have a stiff drink. In other words, chill. Please don't insult the intelligence of most people on this site by using the usual antisemitic bull s*** cloaked as some big bad conspiracy to rule the world, or take over the planet or other nonsense. I'm surprised at the intense hatred I've seen today. How about some background? I have said this before but memory seems limited, or many (all is forgiven) may not have heard. This site is a gold mine of people who love the concept of conspiracy, one reason I partake in reading some posts and also will chime in from time-to-time.

First all human behavior in effect two guys get together and agree to shovel s*** for money and split the cash that is as is any type of cooperation the most basic concept of a "conspiracy". Its what we call "cooperative behavior". Yet anytime two or more people agree and/or get together, thats cooperative behavior. Go into any store and buy something, there is an unspoken agreement that you will pay for it or if you steal it more people get involved, like the cops. That whole "unspoken", no formal contract, or even a "handshake" required, it's called civil, or perhaps more accurately called "a societal understanding, and associated, and usually unspoken behavior".

Of course there are "real" as in broadly&/or specifically deceptive (usually the interesting kind, but mostly very dull) kinds of what is a genuine juicy conspiracy. S*** I've even been part of a couple really neat ones. Point? All "conspiracy", the cool stuff or not, starts&stops w/cooperative behavior. Yet all, indeed "very few" aspects of cooperative behavior are remotely a conspiracy. It is quite natural to see patterns were none exist, it's in the nature of animals like humans to IMPOSE patterns even "create them" to bring order to what may otherwise be chaos. THAT IS THE MAIN REASON so many see deep dark, plans where usually there are none. All higher order brains are neurological-informatic based that are designed to separate one "acceptable from another". Thats why both camouflage works for most creatures and propaganda works for humans. Give them what populations expect (w/a little twist first, then work up). This is by the way some thing also well known and exploited in advertising for over 150 years.

Now lets get several things straight. First; though the Jews have been for those who need to find a villain for everything including bad weather for at least 3,000 years most of the garbage that is used to vilify Jews, as in "they are in charge of the world financial system", they "conspire to in effect control the MIC", hell they ARE the MIC, get my drift? This you can directly trace to a book published in the late 19th century called "The priory of zion". So much on this very thread right out of that book, and thats scary.

Also so ya all know were I come from first: I've stated before on this site the "land grab" of the post 1967 war is just dumb; very counter-productive, w/the exception of the Golan height's which I WOULD HAVE wanted for reasons of it's vital military "high ground". The Palestinian territories that were taken, and w/ continuing settlements not to mention the bulldozing of homes of terrorists as collective punishment, including any other family member in that house, is also deeply counterproductive to any peace. My house has an attached house as part of it so because my Mom is 83&in very bad health. I have great privacy but am able to help her if needed, and having an MD helps. If I committed any crime and TPTB would take the whole house out as "collective punishment"? Real bad idea. So I understand people being really pissed. A no brainer.

As for the $$ the US forks over to Israel? Yup, bocu bucks. But no one gets anything for nothing. No one. Their scientific, R&D, and considering they have fabulous technology in areas like antimissile, IED, and mortar, very good technology, some other systems the cost for us to develop frankly we got one hell of a bargain. Their technology has been tested because their survival as a nation depends on it actually working. They did not share apparent knowledge that the Marine barracks attack in Lebanon in the early 80's killing over 200 US marines, plus some French soldiers still piss's me off today. Big time. But then the traitor John Walker was still in bed w/the USSR, selling codes, family jewel stuff, there was Pollard and knows who else he'd been talking to. And "the Jews" found out out the hard way w/out a nation state, military&intelligence systems associated w/same what happens... We may have had a "holy war" against us since oh maybe 20 years? Israel has been in a state of war since 1947/48. And so it goes...