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The Department of Labor vs. America's Farm Kids

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posted on Dec, 16 2011 @ 06:22 PM
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The Department of Labor vs. America's Farm Kids Read more: www.americanthinker.com...


www.americanthinker.com

Under new standards being advocated by the Labor Department, youths under the age of eighteen would be prohibited from working in hay lofts, giving shots, caring for baby animals, and being in the vicinity of animals whose behavior may be "unpredictable." For the estimated 1.3 million youths living or working on farms, this means no longer being able to perform routine chores if the farm is set up as a corporation or a business partnership. Today, the vast majority of family farms are legally structured in this manner.

Read more: www.americanthinker.com...
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posted on Dec, 16 2011 @ 06:22 PM
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How do you undermine family farms, healthy food, non GMO. You take away the hired hands and chores of the family and make sure it has to be corporate or incorporated, and in Share Holders Hands?

And kids, they're to be protected from learning how to help out in agriculture. Video games with violence, and porn on the net is deemed best, and anything that deprives them of this has got to be abuse of our youths. The Dark Side has too much invested in their mind control.



www.americanthinker.com
(visit the link for the full news article)
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posted on Dec, 16 2011 @ 06:25 PM
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With their new draconian pseudo laws, wonder if its even legal for you to report if they are harassing you or inspecting your home and farm for signs of this new child slavery. IMO a thriving farm operation would probably be their first clue and start the investigation.



posted on Dec, 16 2011 @ 06:35 PM
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This is ridiculous! Those things mentioned are vital to the running of a farm and most farm kids are assigned those duties while the adults perform the most dangerous tasks.

I wonder what the Libs think about the 16 year old kid Parker on the show Gold Rush running his own gold mining operation in Alaska.

This type of regulation will just drive more family owned farms out of business.

The next thing you know I'm gonna have some government bureaucrat watching me pick tomatoes in my garden and telling me how the f$@# to do it.



posted on Dec, 16 2011 @ 06:48 PM
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Of course they're essential, they're the backbone of a family farm, rather than a rich corporate interest affair. And they're part of the best education kids receive. We grew up on a farm. I want people to start to make some noise. What will they do, when they do farm inspections? Prohibit everyone from reporting/sharing this? Seize the farm? Sieze the kids?



posted on Dec, 16 2011 @ 07:11 PM
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Originally posted by Unity_99
reply to post by tsawyer2
 


Of course they're essential, they're the backbone of a family farm, rather than a rich corporate interest affair. And they're part of the best education kids receive. We grew up on a farm. I want people to start to make some noise. What will they do, when they do farm inspections? Prohibit everyone from reporting/sharing this? Seize the farm? Sieze the kids?


You are certainly right about the education part. As a kid growing up on a farm, through all that hard work, you have to learn, biology, chemistry, meteorology, horticulture, physics, carpentry, landscaping etc. that pertains to a farm. The work ethic you learn is an education in itself and helps kids even if they don't decide to remain on the farm.

I'd personally like to see more families have a garden where these principles can be taught.

I'm fortunate to have a half acre of flat land, even though I live in a small city. My garden is over a 1000 sq ft and I plan to expand it next year. I have learned sooo much in that garden.



posted on Dec, 16 2011 @ 09:04 PM
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Well,there you go.
Another example of the government sticking it's nose in where it does not belong and destroying small business.

I grew up on a big farm.
300 sows and pigs in rotation year round plus about 1000 acres of prime farm land.
The best education I ever got.
And in our area,the families helped each other when it came to baling hay and what not.
It taught me to work hard and learn everything biological and mechanical.

If they do this to the farmers,does this mean big business will take over the farming for us?
I think so and that is their plan.



posted on Dec, 16 2011 @ 09:13 PM
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Originally posted by kdog1982
Well,there you go.
Another example of the government sticking it's nose in where it does not belong and destroying small business.

I grew up on a big farm.
300 sows and pigs in rotation year round plus about 1000 acres of prime farm land.
The best education I ever got.
And in our area,the families helped each other when it came to baling hay and what not.
It taught me to work hard and learn everything biological and mechanical.

If they do this to the farmers,does this mean big business will take over the farming for us?
I think so and that is their plan.


Heck, hasn't big business already taken over farming? Mega-Farms rule most American agriculture. Now, for me I'm not opposed to big farms, I just would love to see consumers reach out more to local produce and family farms and I would also like to see more people produce food on their own.

It's not a lost art and anyone can do it. Even if you have just a balcony to work with, you can grow some kind of food on your own.



posted on Dec, 16 2011 @ 09:23 PM
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My dad owns about 3000 acres of land,but doesn't farm any more.
He leases it out to friends and family so they can make a living
In a sense,he is a corporation.
The land has been in our family for generations.
And,when he passes,it will be mine to manage.
And I'll be damned if I let some big corporation buy it from me.

As far as people getting a small piece of property to raise veggies and such,people are too lazy.
It is easier to go sit at a desk all day and then go to a grocery store to buy frozen food to stick in the microwave.

Not all people ,mine you,just a majority.


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posted on Dec, 17 2011 @ 12:35 AM
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It is stupid. But - it just says advocating.

They probably advocate a lot of things - - that never actually happen.

Love the Liberal bashing - - therefore not going to take this seriously.
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posted on Dec, 17 2011 @ 01:15 AM
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I think that TPTB are trying to limit the spread of agricultural knowledge so that times will be that much harder should we enter a period of anarchy - due to war or natural disaster - so that we don't remember that we can - did - make it without a strong federal government.



posted on Dec, 17 2011 @ 03:07 AM
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I don't vote, but when I did it was our social democrat party. I don't care what party is in currently, Bush was not a great thing for the world either, however the last while its been very alarming, as far as liberty goes.



posted on Dec, 17 2011 @ 08:35 AM
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I am a person who grew up in a non rural setting. However, even I can understand that the best way to learn such a life style (I will not call farming a job, since a job is not an adequate description for what farmers do) as farming, is to live and breathe it from an early age. Natural affinity for animal husbandry, instinctive understanding of the dynamics of a patch of land, and the affects of seasonal change on an area, are NOT things that can be learned effectively. They are things that one ABSORBS from a location over decades. An early start is crucial.

Banning these kids from performing tasks that have been done by young people throughout the history of farming, is an outrage, and is also economically insane. Right now, vast tracts of the US are not owned by US interests. They are owned by gargantuan multi-national agri companies, banks (which owe money all over the globe), and private investors. A cut of all the profits from these foreign owned tracts of land, dissapear from the US economy every time the tithe is paid.

To hamstring and effectively destroy the only farming families still owning thier own land, is utterly foolish, and will mean that soon, NONE of the money made in the US by agriculture will remain in the nation. It will evaporate, ghostlike among corperations, multi national investment firms, and banks. That money which DOES remain in the US, will sit idle in the coffers of large businesses, and be hidden from the taxman, further erroding the US economy.

And make no mistake, forcing farming families that got by on thier own, to hire out for more help than they do currently, WILL bankrupt the majority of them in no time, I am absolutely sure of it. This legislation is the most utterly, morbidly, and BLATANTLY unpatriotic thing I have ever heard of the US doing to its citizens. Its got to be at least ten times worse than the patriot act even!

If I, an ash breathing urbanite can see that, I hate to think how obvious it must be for anyone living the farming life, and how ignorant people in the US government must be to have let this legislature pass.



posted on Dec, 17 2011 @ 11:45 AM
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posted on Dec, 17 2011 @ 11:50 AM
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Originally posted by kdog1982
reply to post by tsawyer2
 


As far as people getting a small piece of property to raise veggies and such,people are too lazy.
It is easier to go sit at a desk all day and then go to a grocery store to buy frozen food to stick in the microwave.

Not all people ,mine you,just a majority.


I think about the many, many, many who have no land at all. Maybe a plant or two could be grown in a 20th floor apartment, but... Yeah. Feeding Oneself? Not likely. And what about people like Me who are homeless?



posted on Dec, 17 2011 @ 12:27 PM
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This is a bunch of bull. Look across the entire US, and Ag shows, and youth programs. At the age of 11 I raised a chicken from an EGG and later took it to the State Fair to win a Grand Champion ribbon. Two years later got Grand Champ, and Reserve Grand Champ in county AG fair market lamb show. Fence work and work in the fields were necessary to feed and care for these animals.

FTA

youths under the age of eighteen would be prohibited from working in hay lofts, giving shots, caring for baby animals, and being in the vicinity of animals whose behavior may be "unpredictable."


So that means.
"sorry Johnny, you can not have a pony until you are 18, sorry sally, that kitty could be unpredictable, so you can not have it until you are 18.
edit on 17-12-2011 by vogon42 because: left out " market lamb show"



posted on Dec, 17 2011 @ 12:30 PM
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Funny, with 17 you are allowed to go in the army, shoot people or get shot...

But working on the farm is too dangerous..

Wicked world.



posted on Dec, 17 2011 @ 03:20 PM
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I'd be more concerned it the Dept. Of Ag regulation they're changing was cited, it isn't in the AmericanThinker Blog.
Without it, it's just gossip.
Good thread tho.



posted on Dec, 17 2011 @ 03:54 PM
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Urban gardens are staring to become very popular.
When I lived in an apartment,I grew all kinds of things inside by the window.

Take a look at this site for ideas.
www.urbangardensweb.com...

And,I'm sorry you are homeless.



posted on Dec, 18 2011 @ 01:24 PM
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Originally posted by kdog1982
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Urban gardens are staring to become very popular.
When I lived in an apartment,I grew all kinds of things inside by the window.

Take a look at this site for ideas.
www.urbangardensweb.com...


Cool! I suppose One could grow a fair amount. Still and all, setting up costs $$$ and if One has no space, it might be problematic.


And,I'm sorry you are homeless.


LOL! So am I!

Thanks. [smile]
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