The Largest Pyramid on Earth is in North Korea! Plus More.

Originally posted by GoodOlDave

I'm sorry, but quoting wikipedia statistics only goes so far in describing what is going in in that hell hole.

But you didn't quote anything Dave?

I actually used legitimate documents considered valid by the majority of the world.

You, didn't even use a link. It was like hearsay you merely paraphrased as best you remembered. It could be skewed by bias even , that the media carefully embedded within you (and anyone else that ever listened to the news).

How do we know exactly what degree of hell is represented within that nation since we haven't actually visited?

Also I want to share with everyone this link for some surprising TRUTH about North Korea!

They say NK is the MOST totalitarian of all? Lies!

NK is actually more freedom oriented than every nation on Earth in the realm of "Legalization".
Supposedly they are the only nation on Earth that has zero criminalization of green plants we consider a drug here.

Google it!
Here s the first link from google :

North Korea Smokes **** Everyday, Which Explains A Lot

Obviously most of their other totalitarian laws suck, but it is interesting to know that NK is more free-oriented when it comes to a silly plant that is demonized to no end wrongly in our society.


When I found out the truth about NK drug law a few days ago, I about flipped! This revelation is nuts!

reply to post by muzzleflash

People always rant about how 'evil' Kim Jong-il is, but they are failing to recognize how he is apparently totally connected to the global power elite directly.

Interesting! Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I did fail recognize this connection.

I'm a baaaaad girl. I read somewhere that pyramids could be used for time travel, as in artificial portals.

I was sayin' hmmmmmm before but now I'm sayin' r...e...alllllly???

Originally posted by Argyll
We have our very own pyramid where I live here in Stockport.....on an estate called Kings Valley!.......and owned by a bank no less!.....and occasionally they fire a green laser out of the top of it! (not sure why they do that to be honest)

A conspiracy theorist could have a field day!

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More info on the "Stockport Pyramid" for anyone else following along and interested.
Thx for the post btw Argyll.

The Co-Operative Bank (UK)

Thread from over at Icke's forum

Haven't found any info on the developers aside of that small tidbit mentioned at Icke's. I'll keep looking around and see if I come across anything cool.

Originally posted by muzzleflash
If you notice in the photographs of Kim Jong-Il, he never wears regalia. He dresses as a worker.

There could be two reasons for this. One, to convince the rest of the world that he's not part of the nobility. Two, to also convince his followers in his country that he's a worker-class individual just like them.

Also, there may be truth to his claims that he's heir to the lands of South Korea as well.

right....funny(sic) how a war that involved killing close to a million people, tends to do away with dynastic land claims. it's only his land if enough people believe it, and enough allow it. this is the way it has been for any land claim throughout the history of man.

Originally posted by muzzleflash

 

You, didn't even use a link. It was like hearsay you merely paraphrased as best you remembered. It could be skewed by bias even , that the media carefully embedded within you (and anyone else that ever listened to the news).

How do we know exactly what degree of hell is represented within that nation since we haven't actually visited?

We know becuase of the testimony of people who actually lived there. Here's a link to Amnesty International's report on political prisons in North Korea, which as you're well aware is an organization with firmly established credibility. The report is based upon interviews with people who were sent there and later defected. People are beign sent there for "crimes" such as criticizing the regime while they're drunk to simply having a relative already in the prison who tried to escape. 40% of inmates die of malnutrition, including children...and yes, children are sent to these prisons because in North Korea whole families are sent to these prisons for what one family member does-

Amnesty International: North Korean prison camps

Here's the testimony from one guard who actually worked in the prison system and defected because of the horrors he saw there, including one guard deliberately drowning two young girls for the "crime" of fishing food out of a pond-

Former North Korean prison guard remembers atrocities

What brought the depravity of North Korea on my own radar was reading the book NOTHING TO ENVY, a collection of stories of people who actually lived in North Korea. The strict control of people's lives ranges from the gov't telling people what color to paint their houses to being punished for not wearing buttons with the leader's picture. Starvation is outrageously epidemic from chronic mismanagement, and is made even worse by the government's "military first" policy. One refugee even said dogs in China eat better than the people do in North Korea. This isn't make believe; these are actual stories of actual people who were there-

Amazon: Nothing to Envy: Ordinary lives in North Korea

At one point I was actually toying with the idea of taking a trip there to see how screwed up the place was (yes, Americans are allowed to visit there), but the tourism company specifically warned all travellers to strictly behave themselves because we're not the ones who'll be punished if we break the rules; itt's the tour guides who'll be punished for not being able to control us. It was from the tour companies themselves telling us the tour guides are being held hostage to ensure our cooperation, and there's no flipping way I am goign to be part of such beastly behavior.

I'm sorry if this sounds harsh, but claiming a monstrous place like North Korea is among the free'est of nations is so utterly ridiculous you can't even discuss it.

Originally posted by GoodOlDave


I'm sorry if this sounds harsh, but claiming a monstrous place like North Korea is among the free'est of nations is so utterly ridiculous you can't even discuss it.

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It's ridiculous that we imprison MILLIONS of innocent people over a plant.

And it's amazing NK has this one law better than we do.

In the realm of that one law, they got everyone beat. It's nuts that you take my words out of context trying to skew what I am saying.

What I said : NK Ranks in the middle of the world's nations living standards
:Their narco-policy is superior to ours (more freedom oriented)

Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask
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Hmmmm...........well, Id be more impressed if it was built during the time when we didnt have the technology we do now......

Thats probably why it hasnt gotten much attention..........

Not many people care that its the largest when youve got cranes, and plasma cutters etc etc etc......

The Original pyramids throughout the world to me, are much more marvelous........

i think you completely missed the point ...pardon the pun

Good thread, and nice recent additions. I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the Luxor Hotel in Las Vegas, Nevada, in the U.S. It's a pretty large pyramid-shape too. Probably the largest pyramid in the U.S. and Canada. What's the larget pyramid in Europe? In Australia? (I could look it up but it's more fun to ask.) I stayed at the Luxor once a few years ago, and the casino was pretty exciting, everything considered.

Originally posted by muzzleflash

Originally posted by GoodOlDave


I'm sorry if this sounds harsh, but claiming a monstrous place like North Korea is among the free'est of nations is so utterly ridiculous you can't even discuss it.

edit on 12-4-2013 by GoodOlDave because: (no reason given)

It's ridiculous that we imprison MILLIONS of innocent people over a plant.

As ridiculous as being sent to a political prison for what your grandfather did?

And it's amazing NK has this one law better than we do.

In the realm of that one law, they got everyone beat. It's nuts that you take my words out of context trying to skew what I am saying.

What I said : NK Ranks in the middle of the world's nations living standards
:Their narco-policy is superior to ours (more freedom oriented)

"Nuts", my dog's butt! What you're neglecting to take into account is that in North Korea the first and foremost priority of the gov't is to ensure everyone remains loyal to the head of state, with everything else being a distant second. They're not liberalizing marijuana laws as much as the crime family in charge of the country for the last sixty years don't see it as a threat to their grip on power. Freedom has absolutely nothing to do with it- if it were instead the case that South Korean marijuana farmers were smuggling pot into their country (the same way marijuana is beign smuggled from Mexico to the US) it would instantly be declared a crime punishable by death entirely because it's coming from South Korea.

You can't NOT know that.

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I am not disputing many of those aspects of how crappy NK govt actually is.

I am merely stating that there are technically , by the numbers, worse nations out there to live in.

I deplore their fascist psychopathy, just as I deplore our own.

NK isn't a 1st world nation, and it's not exactly 3rd world either. It's in the middle.
Perhaps on the lower end of the middle spectrum to be more precise.

Originally posted by muzzleflash
Also I want to share with everyone this link for some surprising TRUTH about North Korea!

They say NK is the MOST totalitarian of all? Lies!

NK is actually more freedom oriented than every nation on Earth in the realm of "Legalization".
Supposedly they are the only nation on Earth that has zero criminalization of green plants we consider a drug here.

Google it!
Here s the first link from google :

North Korea Smokes **** Everyday, Which Explains A Lot

Obviously most of their other totalitarian laws suck, but it is interesting to know that NK is more free-oriented when it comes to a silly plant that is demonized to no end wrongly in our society.


When I found out the truth about NK drug law a few days ago, I about flipped! This revelation is nuts!

Stoned people are much more easily influenced.

You can convince a stoned person of just about anything if you set things up the right way.

It's no different than anyone on ATS creating a well built thread, pictures, proper links, the whole 9-- but all of it can be completely bogus. But the organization of it convinces many.

And so does the media, with much more skill of course.

So then in their minds, it doesn't hurt to make sure people are more susceptible so that their agenda is more easily manifested...

It's not that the outlawing of some things is good; but it is that the tension creating buy the outlawing allows for more of a breakout when it's made legal.

For example, peoples' gun rights were threatened, so people ran out and got a gun. (and that was their mission, mind you, to cause that to happen).

So the tension has built. As soon as those things are made legal, many will flock to it simply because the law says, "it's all good, guy!"

So to consider this little thing a semblance of freedom is unwise.

Originally posted by muzzleflash
reply to post by GoodOlDave

 

I am not disputing many of those aspects of how crappy NK govt actually is.

I am merely stating that there are technically , by the numbers, worse nations out there to live in.

I deplore their fascist psychopathy, just as I deplore our own.

NK isn't a 1st world nation, and it's not exactly 3rd world either. It's in the middle.
Perhaps on the lower end of the middle spectrum to be more precise.

"Psychopathy"...LOL...a very good word, but whatever. Let me ask you something. You seem to hold North Korea in high regard entirely for marijuana being one of the rare things the people there aren't being arrested for. Is that not just a case of "bread and circuses" where the gov't endorses petty distractions to keep the masses sedated so they won't realize how enslaved they are? Particularly when one of the distractions is from seeing they don't even have bread to go along with the circuses?

Do you really value you weed that much?

Originally posted by GoodOlDave

Originally posted by muzzleflash
reply to post by GoodOlDave

 

I am not disputing many of those aspects of how crappy NK govt actually is.

I am merely stating that there are technically , by the numbers, worse nations out there to live in.

I deplore their fascist psychopathy, just as I deplore our own.

NK isn't a 1st world nation, and it's not exactly 3rd world either. It's in the middle.
Perhaps on the lower end of the middle spectrum to be more precise.

"Psychopathy"...LOL...a very good word, but whatever. Let me ask you something. You seem to hold North Korea in high regard entirely for marijuana being one of the rare things the people there aren't being arrested for. Is that not just a case of "bread and circuses" where the gov't endorses petty distractions to keep the masses sedated so they won't realize how enslaved they are? Particularly when one of the distractions is from seeing they don't even have bread to go along with the circuses?

Do you really value you weed that much?

I don't hold them in high regard Dave. In fact I generally deplore their system and think it a sham.

However, when comparing the shams found in each and every nation globally, it becomes apparent that NK's sham ranks somewhere in the lower mid-tier on living standards.

Their narco-laws are just one small aspect that only give a few % points in the overall assessment.

The reason I brought it up is because most people aren't aware of that fact, and will be surprised to learn.
Also it goes to show you that the Universal balance concept seems to work fairly well even in areas like this, politics. Negative vs positive, etc. Gotta weigh the scales.

Originally posted by TarzanBeta

For example, peoples' gun rights were threatened, so people ran out and got a gun. (and that was their mission, mind you, to cause that to happen).

I agree with most of your post , especially this tidbit.
I do agree there is a very high % chance that the armament industry was behind the push for "gun control" in order to create panic selling and increase sells drastically.

It is a very reasonable hypothesis.

However, saying that stoned people are easy to influence is simply untrue.
People sober or not, are easy to influence.

Look around at all the sober folks, they are just as brainwashed as any druggy. If not more so.

Problem here is that every human being is different, so maybe a druggy here could be brainwashed while this druggy is open minded. Same with sober folks, this one could be brainwashed, while this one is open minded. Drugs play far less of a role in mind control than does Consent (which is 99% of the game).

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I do not really see the special significance of that hotel.

There is one in Doha that is build as a pyramid as well, I have been there many years ago (google: sheraton doha).

It is an interesting shape and it attracts a lot of attention.

Originally posted by muzzleflash

 

I don't hold them in high regard Dave. In fact I generally deplore their system and think it a sham.

Then would you mind terribly explaining your last post of...


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"But you didn't quote anything Dave?

I actually used legitimate documents considered valid by the majority of the world.

You, didn't even use a link. It was like hearsay you merely paraphrased as best you remembered. It could be skewed by bias even , that the media carefully embedded within you (and anyone else that ever listened to the news).

How do we know exactly what degree of hell is represented within that nation since we haven't actually visited?"
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...if you think their system is a sham? All it takes is a simple Google search to find out a few of the ghastly stories the refugees are telling and you obviously haven't even done that much research. How then can I take any of your other research seriously? For one thing, Marijuana laws in North Korea can't NOT be under the same Stalinist regulations that their food laws are, which means marijuana is probably as equally nonexistant as food is. If you try to hoard more than some legally allowed tiny amount for yourself, you're a black marketeer and an enemy of the state. You're still going to prison but it's only the laws they're going to use to put you in prison that will be different.

Have you at least done enough research to show whether that statement is right or wrong?

However, when comparing the shams found in each and every nation globally, it becomes apparent that NK's sham ranks somewhere in the lower mid-tier on living standards.

I don't think anyone is saying North Korea is a suffocating totalitarian state AND the people there live inside a volcano.

The reason I brought it up is because most people aren't aware of that fact, and will be surprised to learn.
Also it goes to show you that the Universal balance concept seems to work fairly well even in areas like this, politics. Negative vs positive, etc. Gotta weigh the scales.

If your criteria is that cold then you might as well say Nazi Germany wasn't as bad as everyone says because of all the free stuff you could have once the Jews that owned it were sent to the gas chambers. I looked at the information you posted and it said that North Korea was actually one of five nations where marijuana was either legal or de facto legal. What I want to know is, why the heck are you touting North Korea instead of Uruguay, which has liberal marijuana laws AND a much higher standard of living than North Korea?

We both know that answer to that- North Korea is an established hell hole and you're using marijuana laws to try and make it look less like a hell hole. In the end you're not being a spokesman for marijuana reform. You're being a spokesman for North Korea.

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Very interresting find. I had a gut feeling the top of the Shadow was around NK. S&F

Originally posted by muzzleflash

Originally posted by TarzanBeta

For example, peoples' gun rights were threatened, so people ran out and got a gun. (and that was their mission, mind you, to cause that to happen).

I agree with most of your post , especially this tidbit.
I do agree there is a very high % chance that the armament industry was behind the push for "gun control" in order to create panic selling and increase sells drastically.

It is a very reasonable hypothesis.

No, that's not it. It's because there are politicians who are really and truly trying to take people's gun rights away who have myriad levels of success. Case in point- here in Connecticut they were debating all sorts of sick gun restrictions from 50% taxes on ammunition to prohibiting all firearms capable of holding more than ONE round (yes, even deer rifles). I saw what this was going to lead to so I broke down and bought one of those Cetme rifles I always wanted because I knew it was going to be banned on one way or the other. Sure enough- Connecticut passed a law banning so called "assault weapons" but current owners are still allowed to keep them. If I had waited even two weeks I'd have been prohibited from being able to legally buy one forever.

For those people who don't get it, imagine the analogy that you only had until the end of April to get that new PS3 console you've always wanted before it became illegal to buy. Would you suddenly find the money to buy one?

Ummm, what does that have to do with North Korea?

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Nah you are just taking everything out of context.

Anyone with a brain can read my thread and know I am not being what you say I am being.

And I wasn't trying to do what you said I was doing either.