This might get a long and "complicated" post for which i apologize in advance.
But i want to point out the main problem which might be arising when we talk about UFOs and Aliens.
As so many others, many years ago i started to become interested in the phenomenon of UFOs and Aliens. I read quite a few books, ranging from classic
books about UFO sightings to the interesting books about the Abduction phenomenon. I attended chat rooms, watched movies etc..etc.. So i am pretty
sure that this is very typical thing and many people on ATS have the same history.
The longer i started to have an interest in the overall subject and the further i dug into the subject, with the help in particular of the VERY good
books by Jacques Vallee plus some others which go in the same direction (plus Hopkins/Mack with their reports about Abductions) - it became more or
less clear to me that the UFO phenomenon is very, very likely much, much more complex than what many people assume.
One very common theory and assumption is that UFOs are "craft" controlled by ET (extraterrestrial beings). The UFO phenomenon is seen as a physical
phenomenon - as "real" as for example if we would send a probe up to mars or send astronauts to another planet etc.
But it became more and more clear that the UFO phenomenon has WAAAYYY to many aspects of what you would call "spiritual" to it to simply explain it
with extraterrestrial craft.
Many things told by abductees dont make any sense on a "scientific" level - or they are simply "too far out" and just don't fit in into a simple
Many accounts of encounters, abduction or sightings have elements in them which contradict any know science and the "Aliens" behave more like spirits
Vallee i think was the first one who pointed out the similarities between what people reported in the middle-ages as either demons or angels..and how
many of those phenomenons in the past have similarities with today's UFO encounters.
There is also a STRIKING parallel to what people experience when they "astral travel" (out of body experience) which i personally know as real
experience, depending on how you define "real" of course.
Reports of people meeting Aliens when they have out of body experiences, and of course the extremely striking similarities of OOBE experiences with
the Abduction phenomenon! (Mind you i am NOT doing off the experiences as not being real, i am merely pointing out the similarities!)
In time, i realized that the whole phenomenon is way more complex and there might indeed be ties to religious/spiritual things PLUS maybe to what we
know from ancient scriptures etc. aka "Ancient Alien Theory".
There is a common, often heard claim which can be found throughout all kinds of Abduction/Alien stories...this is that there is some relationship
between "US" and "THEM".
Here is a very nice snippet which i try to recite from memory, i read that a few weeks ago i think here on ATS.
"XYZ has an encounter (out of body experience( and he finds himself amongst Aliens. He becomes aware of this situation and the fact that he is indeed
sleeping but lucid.
He confronts the Alien and tells him "Heck you know i am SLEEPING right now and that all i experience right now is a figure of my imagination. So tell
me...if i imagine/dream all that...how comes you are here?
The Alien then gives some surprising answer which goes like "Well you think you created us in your imagination, but to tell the truth..it's exactly
the other way around. You did not create us, we created you"
There are also countless reports by abductees where they are taught (or instinctively know) about a relationship between us humans and "them"
aliens...and the knowledge given and experienced is sometimes...MORE than baffling, to say it mildly.
The theories range here from that we are indeed created by them (for whatever purpose)....or that we are the Aliens...or "simply" that the "Aliens"
are indeed beings which live "in another dimension"....as opposed to coming from another planet.
Now it gets really interesting if we take the "other dimension" theory and look at history.
We know that many ancient cultures do indeed claim that their Gods/creators come from the sky. Even someone who thinks the AA theory is nonsense
should acknowledge this please.
No ask yourself why it is VERY common throughout cultures to talk with Gods/Spirits/Ghosts/"Aliens" using techniques for changing consciousness, this
could be drugs or trance, meditation and so forth. Shamans, priests, "Magicians", you name it. Every culture had them, some STILL have them.
(Aborigines, Tribes etc.)
It was always those people who knew how to change consciousness using any of the above methods to get in contact with "the other world" and then
getting all kinds of insight from them by using such methods.
And this is again where the circle closes itself...from the reports of ancient "Gods" or creators, angels, demons or beings encountered...and how
people in ancient history might have had more knowledge of those things than we have today trying to understand the phenomenon with "rational"
Because here is the kicker: If we do indeed deal with entities which are "living" in another "dimension", then we can try to explain them with our
science but we will simply NEVER be able to understand.
Because the phenomenon, the Aliens, *are* not really in/at our current level of consciousness. - they might be more evolved in a way which is way
beyond our understanding...maybe entities which evolved in such a way that they already long ago left behind being dependent on our physical world and
are able to live as entities basically "one step above" what we call "our reality".
And they might very well be the same as what we call(ed) Ghosts, demons, spirits, angels, Gods even...
I know this might all sound like "new age" mumbo jumbo..but this is what i realized studying the phenomenon and reading book and this is the
conclusion i made. There are simply too many aspects to the phenomenon which have this "spiritual" touch to it...and 100.000 UFO videos and sightings
reported in the news will likely NOT be able to explain it. Because it goes much, much deeper than what the average Joe thinks it is.
edit on 10-12-2011 by flexy123 because: (no reason given)