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A blockbuster Chinese study of Tibetan tree rings by Lui et al 2011 shows, with detail, that the modern era is a dog-standard normal climate when compared to the last 2,500 years. The temperature, the rate of change — it’s all been seen before. Nothing about the current period is “abnormal”, indeed the current warming period in Tibet can be produced through calculation of cycles. Lui et al do a Fourier analysis on the underlying cycles and do brave predictions as well. In Tibet, it was about the same temperature on at least four occasions — back in late Roman times (those chariots!), then again in the dark ages (blame the collapse of industry), then in the middle ages (the Vikings?), then in modern times (blame the rise of industry). Clearly, these climate cycles have nothing to with human civilization. Their team finds natural cycles of many different lengths are at work: 2-3 years, 100 years, 199 years, 800 years, and 1,324 years. The cold periods are associated with sunspot cycles. What we are not used to seeing are brave scientists willing to publish exact predictions of future temperatures for 100 years that include rises and falls. Apparently, it will cool til 2068, then warm again, though not to the same warmth as 2006 levels.
China recently took that title. Before them that it was the USA, but still, person for person the USA is the worlds biggest polluter.
Originally posted by roughycannon
Says China who happen to be one of the biggest polluters in the world if not the biggest...
I wouldn't trust that country as far as I could throw them, their a bunch of animal abusers and have no respect for life or this planet.
Originally posted by RightWingAvenger
reply to post by Pokoia
Well if your trying to stir the pot regarding climate change you've done it. I won't call it global warming. I'll call it climate change. It's real and there is going to be some changes. The glaciers are melting and releasing methane into the atmosphere.
Something big is going to happen in our lifetime. Like it or not. Climate change is going to happen.
Originally posted by Pokoia
reply to post by Dionisius
OK, you stand firm for your opinion.
Please explain to me why, iphone, ipad, nanomaterials, high temperature super conductive wire and a lot of high tech stuff can be bought in China first.
Because they are so stupid?????
Originally posted by Dionisius
reply to post by Pokoia
There is always hope, but on a tangent, we have become a parasite on this earth and just like the human body, the earth will attack us to save itself, so we need to get back to our roots and reconnect with nature for the earth to accept us as part of it. Just a thought.
First lesson for Japan, march 11 2011, was not understood. Second lesson to follow I believe sometimes there is a lesson to be learned when something extraordinary happens. Japan was severely shaken by a very large earthquake on march 11. It cost a lot of lives, did a lot of damage and was the cause of the Fukushima disaster. Then they noticed that not everyone in the world liked them. There are good reasons for this: War atrocities, especially those committed by Unit 731, and the fact that Japan hardly ever spontaneous said sorry for those. These facts are not so well-known all over the world. Better known and widely condemned are the Japanese whaling activities. Apparently the Japanese did learn nothing. Well I have news for you, if Japan does not announce, in the coming seven days, to stop whaling forever, there will be a last and final lesson. This lesson is not for Japan, because those Islands will be gone for a large part and the remaining part will be UN-inhabitable forever. This lesson will be for the rest of the world. This time Gaya is really pissed-off, is am I.