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I dare you to walk up to a Kiwi and describe his country that way, I guarantee it will not be a pleasant meeting.
You are clearly clueless of other cultures. The Haka is a well respected tradition that has been performed for over 120 years, to call it 'obscure' and the people who performed it 'retarded immigrants' just shows how culturally insensitive and closed off from the outside world you are.
Clearly you have never had the pleasure of meeting a Maori Kiwi. Good luck with that.
But I guarantee most of the rest of the world has. That was kind of my point in the OP, how stupid and closed off can some Americans be?
I'm Aussie. The Haka is Kiwi. LEARN YOUR COUNTRIES - oh that's right, Americans don't feel the need to know about the rest of the world.
Aggressive posture? The Haka is a cultural tradition. Please learn some culture, if you can bring yourself to admit that there is a world outside America.
Thank you for showing your complete and utter ignorance to anything that is not American.
Originally posted by Aim64C
reply to post by Kryties
8 pounds. 8 pounds of pressure is all it takes to render a limb useless without extensive surgery.
Would you... care to source this?
Sorry, communications breakdown. "Your" can be ambiguous when I use it - meaning the comment is directed at any reader. Therefor, my comment would be translated: "If you go around presuming the world knows about your customs and traditions, it is quite arrogant."
I do that quite often - speak to the reader more than the person I quoted - unless I'm casting an insult out. Then it's generally directed at the person I quoted.
Yes. That is considered an aggressive posture. Low center of mass. Elevated voice. Direct eye contact.
There are also other circumstances in this particular instance: - the blocking of traffic, the 'targeting' of the opposing team's spectators, and the failure to comply with officers' instructions to cease.
In case you didn't know... The town this happened in is in Utah - a state that is joined in a federal union of states known as the United States of America.
When I go to Korea, I abide by their customs. When I go to the UAE - I abide by theirs. Even the guys who will hoop and holler after coming out of a restaurant, here, will not there. Why? Because it generally does not go over well in foreign countries to be the loud and obnoxious person who obviously 'isn't from around here.'
There are hundreds of countries on this planet, and several hundred cultural backgrounds and mannerisms. You could devote your whole life to the cultures of the planet and not even get through the half of them before dying of old age.
Perhaps we could adjust the concept. I highly doubt you're familiar with the culture in Puerto Rico - or how/why it's different from the culture of Mexico or Cuba.
You learn more about the cultures and people you interact with. Most Americans have little cause to learn or care much about New Zealand. They choose to learn about Mexico, Canada, ... Japan (though watching anime and attempting to use it to learn Japanese hardly merits ...) the UK, etc.
Of course - one could spend a good deal of time simply learning about the cultural differences within the U.S. Many populations here have lived in relative isolation from each other. Percentage-wise, few North Eastern folk end up in the mid-west or on the West Coast (or South East peninsula/gulf). Different demographic groups have different cultures and dialects, even within ...
Many people simply don't realize how big America is until they get to it. Many exchange students flip the hell out over how long it takes to fly from one point in the country to the other. Five hours later - they are still on the damned plane, and still over the U.S.
It's one thing to point out that perhaps they were not doing the right thing by moving on, it's quite another to call them a "small and insignificant population of people" that is not worth your time and that just because Americans don't know about the Haka that means nobody else in the world does either. That stinks of arrogance and ignorance and, quite frankly, makes me convinced you are just another ATS troll.
Originally posted by MisterFister103
Did anyone see Family Guy on Sunday??? At the end of the episode, Joe, the paraplegic cop, gave one of the out of town cops a taste of his own medicine. Earlier in the episode, the main guys were subjected to some police brutality, so at the end of the episode Joe shoots the cop in the leg. He goes off about how cops are supposed to be more understanding and compassionate than the average man. They're job is to protect and serve, not to abuse their power.
I thought it was a good message, and made me think of all the ridiculous police brutality threads I see on here.
As I said before, you've never met a Maori or you wouldn't even be thinking that.
But there you go again eh - flexing those American muscles trying to sound like a tough guy. I vomited a little in my mouth.
Yours was a loaded question by the way, of course there are no official statistics - havingw said that I do know I'm right though.
Insulting people is not only a bannable offence on ATS, I find it quite telling of a person when they resort to insults over intelligent debate.
Aggressive to whom? Undertrained and overzealous American cops maybe, but to anyone who knows that New Zealand exists it is not considered that.
Perhaps, but it could have gone a whole lot different if the cops hadve had an inkling about foreign cultures.
I'm sorry, did you just suggest that Americans abroad try to fit in and not be loud and obnoxious?? What a laugh that is......
All I read in that last section was "America is great, we don't need to integrate and understand other cultures, we don't even need to leave our own country because we are the bestest most Glorious Almighty country in the world and who cares about the rest....blah blah blah flex flex whinge moan whine.
You do know that Australia is just as big as the US don't you? Yet you don't hear us trying to claim there is no point visiting the world because of the size of our own penis....excuse me I meant country......
Originally posted by brokedown
Not all American are as ignorant as what is being exposed here.
Anyone who had a clue would recognize the squat, the arms position, and the first word of the chant immediately.
So, if you find yourself in the position of never being exposed to Haka, this should be a clue that you are a victim of the “dumbing down” of America and it should challenge you to widen your horizons and improve your education.
Originally posted by Kryties
Americans don't feel the need to know about the rest of the world.