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Originally posted by Beamish
reply to post by GmoS719
And the term isn't just virgin it is "Virgin Birth".
There is only one meaning for this.
So, by that reckoning, any virgin who wishes to be a mother but doesn't want a partner and undergoes artificial insemination and subsequently gives birth has a "Virgin Birth"?
Does that make their children divine?
Originally posted by GmoS719
reply to post by satron
God's attributes are not borrowed. False god's attributes are borrowed from the one true God.
He was here first. It just took us a while to get it right.edit on 2-12-2011 by GmoS719 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Beamish
reply to post by GmoS719
To say "Sex wasn't involved" would suggest that Sex COULD be involved.
Are you being serious? When I said:
Unless someone had sex with a rock
did you think I was suggesting it was a possibility?
The point of the matter is the concept.
Mithra and Jesus were allegedly both born without procreation having taken place.
Virgin can have several meanings, not just in relation to sex.
being the first or happening for the first time
www.thefreedictionary.com...
So with that in mind, Mithra having been born of a rock – which was a first – then his is a virgin birth.
Which is Incorrect. So VIRGIN can not be applied to a rock.
It is correct. And it can be applied.
But obviously not if you are devout Christian.
Originally posted by lilowl53
I tend to go for the notion that Jesus is actually the "sun" and not the"son". 12 Disciples, 12 constellations in the zodiac, Sirius...etc.
Originally posted by satron
Originally posted by GmoS719
reply to post by satron
God's attributes are not borrowed. False god's attributes are borrowed from the one true God.
He was here first. It just took us a while to get it right.edit on 2-12-2011 by GmoS719 because: (no reason given)
If God was envisioned wrong so many times, how do you know that you aren't in the same pickle? Another improvement to the attributes of God could be made down the road, potentially making you a pagan believing in a false God like the rest.
Originally posted by GmoS719
Originally posted by satron
Originally posted by GmoS719
reply to post by satron
God's attributes are not borrowed. False god's attributes are borrowed from the one true God.
He was here first. It just took us a while to get it right.edit on 2-12-2011 by GmoS719 because: (no reason given)
If God was envisioned wrong so many times, how do you know that you aren't in the same pickle? Another improvement to the attributes of God could be made down the road, potentially making you a pagan believing in a false God like the rest.
Jesus came to set the record straight, and he did. I'm not worried about being wrong.
All of the pre-Christ-ian religions worshopped a son [sun] born of a virgin mother [on Christmas] that possesed powerful cognitive energy, preached to the common people, died via crucifiction, was placed in a tomb [Good Friday] and was resurrected after three days [Easter Sunday]. The birth resonates with the Winter solstice, the lowest point of the Sun, the subsequent non-movement of the Sun for three days in this low position and then the beginning of its ascent as it moves back toward the lengthening of days toward the Spring Equinox and the Summer Solstice. This event is simultaneous with the lining up of the three stars of Orions Belt [the three wiseman] and the star "Sirius" with the lowest point of the sun. The Sun stays at this low point for three days. So, after the Winter solstice the sun starts its ascent after three days, corresponding to the birth of the 'Son' [Sun] on Christmas Day. Ref: naturalscienceorganics.com...
Your beginning argument was "So the rock had sex then".
Listen to yourself!
Unless someone had sex with a rock…
Virgin Birth and Being pushed out of a rock are not even close.
What do you think?
Originally posted by Tea4One
reply to post by arpgme
Why is it open minded to believe Jesus existed? Surely to be open-minded you must be open to the belief of atheists, which is that he didn't exist. I don't believe he existed but im open to peoples arguments of why they think he did. I have no problems with Christians and their faith. There are arguments for both sides, neither with 100% proof.
No it's not because the rock isn't human and therefore not of a virgin.
Originally posted by Beamish
reply to post by arpgme
Mithra was NOT born of a virgin like Jesus, he was born from a ROCK!
So, the rock had had sex, then?
Out of a virgin, out of a rock; stil a virgin birth.
Did I say that a child born from a Virgin would be divine?...The topic isn't about divinity.