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Originally posted by Revolution9
It is so good to see all this Christian witnessing going on here at ATS. I am so glad an happy to see it. Peace be with you, OP!
Originally posted by JackTheTripper
reply to post by GmoS719
All of the pre-Christ-ian religions worshopped a son [sun] born of a virgin mother [on Christmas] that possesed powerful cognitive energy, preached to the common people, died via crucifiction, was placed in a tomb [Good Friday] and was resurrected after three days [Easter Sunday]. The birth resonates with the Winter solstice, the lowest point of the Sun, the subsequent non-movement of the Sun for three days in this low position and then the beginning of its ascent as it moves back toward the lengthening of days toward the Spring Equinox and the Summer Solstice. This event is simultaneous with the lining up of the three stars of Orions Belt [the three wiseman] and the star "Sirius" with the lowest point of the sun. The Sun stays at this low point for three days. So, after the Winter solstice the sun starts its ascent after three days, corresponding to the birth of the 'Son' [Sun] on Christmas Day. Ref: naturalscienceorganics.com...
... On december, the sun rises in sagittarius(/ophiuchus)/capricorn - but if you count the 9 months backwards which is approximately how long "human" pregnancy takes, you'll notice the sun rises in virgo - virgin... Hence the virginal "birth".
And please - check the link on this post as well www.abovetopsecret.com...edit on 2-12-2011 by JackTheTripper because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by arpgme
Mithra was NOT born of a virgin like Jesus, he was born from a ROCK!
It is true that December 25 is a Pagan thing for the solstice, BUT, Jesus could NOT be born in the winter if you read The Bible...
I don't comment on what I'm not researched in. Unlike some.
Krishna was NEVER pronounced "Chrishta" and was NOT resurrected! You can read the Hindu scriptures themselves for proof!
You're correct. It's actually the story of Jesus that mimics that of Horus.
As for the story of Horus, he was NOT the only son of God... And his story does NOT mimic's Jesus...
As for the Greek God Attis, the stories about him being resurrected came AFTER Jesus.
Justin Martyr even admitted that the Pagans were COPYING stories of Christianity and they were NOT there before...
That's a lie. You have just told a whopper of a lie simply because you've stated it as fact and gave no evidence to back it up and you didn't even say that you believe it to be the case and scholarly history says your'e wrong.
They created these stories to create and opposition against Christianity...
All that says is that anyone who disagrees with the church is classed as evil by the church. Kind of gets to the core of it don't it? And what it actually translates to is " the opposer."
By the way, do you know what the word opposition means in Hebrew!? SATAN!'
By the way, the lady that created Zeitgeist is a Satanist wanting to get rid of Christianity and create a Utopian world. Doesn't that story sound familiar like the book of revelations?
What do you think of this? Can anyone refute this refutation! You be the Judge!
I have talked crap about the Jesus story because I didn't actually do research and just believed Zeitgeist! Please if you can disprove what I said, otherwise the evidence stands that the Pagans ADDED Christian like storied AFTER Christianity was...
You know how they say that the bible says that the world is flat?
It does NOT! The world "Earth" also simply meant "Land", it was not a reference to the planet but the nations or the lands!
Also, JESUS CHRIST said that no one has went to heaven but him, so what about Elijah?
Elijah ascended up to the sky NOT heaven! The word for heaven was not used there.
Christian Apologetics are making me think that maybe Jesus is true... What do you think?
Originally posted by boymonkey74
reply to post by arpgme
Sorry I don't count you tube videos made by Christians as proof.....
Not bothering with this thread cos at the end of the day I don't believe any of it so....edit on 2-12-2011 by boymonkey74 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by nixie_nox
reply to post by fusionhunter
I know that having to get information from reliable sources like universities and the AP is so tedious and limiting, but if you want to convince people of something, that is how it works.
So private and unknown use submitted content doesn't fall into that category.
The internet barely existed when I went to college and they taught you those rules, they don't teach you that anymore?
If you tried to submit that information on a research paper it would be an automatic fail.
Or else someone could photoshop a ufo into a picture and you and half of ats would accept it as evidence......oh wait.
A List of the similarities between Horus and Jesus:
Horus and the Father are one.
Jesus says, "I and My Father are one. He that seeth Me, seeth Him that sent Me."
Horus is the Father seen in the Son.
Jesus claims to be the Son in whom the Father is revealed.
Horus was the light of the world, the light that is represented by the symbolical eye, the sign of salvation.
Jesus is made to declare that He is the light of the world.
Horus was the way, the truth, the life by name and in person.
Jesus is made to assert that he is the way, the truth, and the life.
Horus was the plant, the shoot, the natzar.
Jesus is made to say: "I am the true vine."
Horus says: It is I who traverse the heaven; I go round the Sekhet-Arru (the Elysian Fields); Eternity has been assigned to me without end. Lo! I am heir of endless time and my attribute is eternity.
Jesus says: " I am come down from Heaven. For this is the will of the Father that everyone who beholdeth the Son and believeth in Him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day." (He, too, claims to be lord of eternity.)
Horus says: " I open the Tuat that I may drive away the darkness."
Jesus says: " I am come a light unto the world."
Horus says: I am equipped with thy words O Ra (the father in heaven) (ch.32) and repeat them to those who are deprived of breath. (ch.38). These were the words of the father in heaven.
Jesus says: " The Father which sent me, he hath given me a commandment, what I should say and what I should speak. Whatsoever I speak, therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak. The word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father’s which sent me."