These are a couple replies I just posted in a thread discussing the UK public sector strikes.Fox News telegraphs the next move of the oligarchy and if
you have seen any 'special reports' by John Stossel amongst other things you know a war on unions has begun.But is it just a war on unions and the
public sector? Or a war on all workers and also a war on small business? I think it is. In my posts my view was that we should all stand together and
work together for sensible solutions instead of breaking into factions.Surley there is more middle ground for the majority of us.Shouldnt we direct
more attention to the ones at the top that created the problems?
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I totally see your points and I think it is the debate of our time.I worry because the next step is private ownership of everything.All services
including parks,public spaces,emergency services.We are pretty much there already.So if the public dont own anything anymore what do we have a say in?
What would be the point of government? Might as well let a bunch of bankers run things openly which is starting to happen in Europe.Its not just a war
on unions, public/private sector workers and small business. It is a war on democracy and it is the oligarchy openly telling us that we dont deserve a
say because they know best and they are far more important and we need them because we would all be helpless without them. They failed,they want us to
pay.But like I said,I agree,we also need to look at improving the public sector and eliminating waste,increasing productivity.If all the major players
in the world agreed to raising the corporate tax level significantly it would seem alot fairer to ask workers to endure austerity. Corporations need
us,we dont need them.Corporations/Trusts(robber barons) kill jobs and send them to third world countries,they hurt economies more than they help.They
take unfair market shares and monopolise/dominate markets.We should let big banks fail and tax the hell out of corporations and put a limit on their
max market share so as to ensure competition and opportunity in markets. And governments should keep and if need be,take back( Eminent Domain) all
public utilities.We should never have let them sell our roads and parks.What can we vote on when we dont own anything?We will be completely beholden
and at their mercy.We pretty much are already,we need to stick together.
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Text But since when do bin men spend several years at university to attain a degree..answer they dont, please think about what you are saying. As
i said in my deleted post, wait until i take my child away on a cultural trip (holiday) and let them try and fine me, for not having him available for
school, i'm inclined to bill the council as it is for today.
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I totally agree.Its like the stories of bus drivers earning six figure salaries that came out of Milwaukee during the fruitless Scott Walker
protests.I think we get caught up in left vs right,conservative vs progressive,public vs private etc etc and caught in ideologies when talking
solutions like capitalism vs communism vs libertarianism vs socialism ...but maybe with common sense and cooperation and an open mind we can take the
good from each of them.Meld them into something that is fair and sensible for all of us. Bus Drivers are important but realistically they dont deserve
six figures,most can agree on that.We can all agree garbage collectors dont deserve better pay than someone that is university educated.They make us
think we cant fix isolated things like that or it will bring down everything and that its not legal but we can do anything,its called a decree or
executive order.They pass them all the time on things they dont tell us about,they sure as hell can pass them if most of us agree.We can also tax the
super wealthy.We are not helpless,we have the power,they make us think we dont.There would be alot that the majority of us could all agree on.I think
we could convince bus drivers and garbage workers to take a pay cut and a wage that was more sensible,if not they could find employment doing
something else.We could also identify and eliminate incompetent teachers.Fix the public sector and make it worker better as well as ensuring adequate
pay,conditions and pension schemes.
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Teachers and public workers like FireFighters,Nurses,Police,Welfare Workers etc are the backbone of society. Why cant the public and private workers
of the world stand in solidarity. There is plenty of people at the top that do [SNIP] like politicians.They tell us if you pay peanuts you get
monkeys,we have monkeys running our countries,if we need Austerity lets start with them.And in the private sector in the UK lets start with those
over-paid soccer/football players.Lets tax the crap out them.They are overvalued in society,teachers undervalued.
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but again the blame lies with government.And to an extent with society.There are many great teachers out there but there would be more if we valued
them more than David Beckham.And if we paid them more. Maybe we arent attracting enough of the right people to be good teachers.
Anyway,austerity for the rich and over valued should be what the workers of the world should be fighting for. We shouldnt be squabbling amongst
ourselves.
#sorry if you already were in that thread,Im a little narcissistic (: and that was a quick way to construct a thread, sorry if its
disjointed.Anyway,should we be fighting ourselves or the Iron Heel?
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30-11-2011 by theovermensch because: changed the three to six figures for busdrivers. You know what I meant (: