Jewish Holocaust On The Rise... Again?

reply to post by Puck 22


This is something I have tried to ask folks multiple times, why does everyone think that Bob is a creep.
I guess, the masses over the course of time must have all seen the same thing.
I can't wait for Bobs inevitable punishment.
Star on yer post.

reply to post by Drunkenparrot


Well regarded by whom? Bill Orielly? George Bush? Blair?

reply to post by theRhenn


I'm sorry, do you knowwhat a holocaust is, theRhenn? It's not a word you can just use for any old thing.

You're comparing spoken ignorance to the mass murder of over twelve million human beings.

Don't do that.

reply to post by theRhenn


I don't agree. In war, everything is permitted That's how you win a war. If you bind yourself to rules in war, then you just give your enemy the upper hand.

We killed hundreds of thousands of innocent Germans in WW2. Nuked 2 cities in Japan. Necessary acts to end a war.

You either have peace and the rule of law, or war and utter brutality. There is no middle ground.

Whilst I agree with some of the comments and opinions I think I have to have my say, I understand that not all Jewish people are evil the same as not all blacks are criminals, same as not all bankers are money grabbing, same as not all Pagans are satan worshippers but you see the problem?.
We are all very good at tarring a specific community with the same brush, Muslims are all potentially suicide bombers right?.
Isn't it about time that the leaders of the Jewish community moved on a bit, its almost like they want to remind us of something terrible that happened in the past then like ANYTHING else that was terrible in the PAST is bound to be remembered and lamented on.
YES it happened but for goodness sake MOVE ON and get on with your lives, no amount of reminising will ever change the fact it happened, we people TODAY were not responsible for it so why should we be made to be the ones to blame?.
The holocaust, slavery for the blacks, the English attrocities in the US before independance and ANYOTHER event in the past happened, YES grieve for a while the move on and remember it as the years go by but DO NOT keep forcing it down the throats of others to what ever purpose, sympathy? Anger?
After all its like a wound its NEVER going to heal if you keep scratching at it to remind your friends that you suffered.
All your going to is antagonise someone into picking on you again after all how many times have YOU heard a parent say to a crying child " Be quiet or I'll give you something to really cry about"?.

Allow the healing to begin and only weakness allows it to keep festering and ONLY the desperate for attention or sympathy will use it as an excuse to get their own way. So I for one WILL NOT ask for forgivness that it happened I was not there, I for one WILL NOT allow it to be used to call me anti-semitic if I DO NOT lament over the past.

Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
reply to post by theRhenn

 

I'm sorry, do you knowwhat a holocaust is, theRhenn? It's not a word you can just use for any old thing.

You're comparing spoken ignorance to the mass murder of over twelve million human beings.

Don't do that.

....again is the key word here. So you're saying, since it already happened once, it can never happen again?

Thanks to TrueAmerican, I would like to add yet another link of interest.

Cairo rally: One day we'll kill all Jews




To answer a specific question about Bob..

Do you not think for a second religion might have something to do with it? Still, do you feel that those Jews should have been slaughtered and burned as they were? Because Bob is a creep?

From the history I have read... The jews lived side my side with the arabs and muslims for many a year. Why would they feel subjigated by the jews when the jews didnt own that land at the time. The arabs and muslims did. Jews were taxed, this is a fact. They were taxed on their beliefs as christians were.

What I find with 120 women calling Jews a creep is the fact that they prefer to wipe them clean out of history.. Extinction level event.. So... what exactly constitutes the extermination of all Jews... ALL Jews!

This also brings something else to mind.. Wether or not I should have to pay reporations for something that happen 200 years before my birth... In the same sense.. That's exactly what the worldly masses seem to be expecting from ALL Jews. When I say the worldly masses, I dont mean all people. I mean it generaly as people use the term zionist and semites.

"This also brings something else to mind.. Wether or not I should have to pay reporations for something that happen 200 years before my birth..."

But it is expected that the average 25-year-old German man with a wife and two children that he works for in the hope of providing them with a nice life should give part of his earnings, in the form of taxes, as reparations to the Jews for something that happened before his 45-year-old father or even his 65-year-old grandfather was born?

Stop. Take a deep breath. Do you smell that? I detect the faint scent of double standards in the air.

reply to post by Puck 22


I never said reperations were right. Dont put words in my mouth, chum.

I dont feel it's right for Germans to get taxed for such things either. Still, it does not justify what is going on.

Who do you blame double standards on? I seriously hope you do not refer to my stance, because I would love to see where i've mentioned such a thing.

Since it seems you havnt read the OP, but probably picked apart certain words or terms... A lil advice for ya...

Stay on topic please.

Your thread, as I understood it, was dealing with the question of why antisemitism exists on such a large scale.
I began with a quote from your post to establish that you understood the concept of rejecting guilt forced on you for the actions of your ancestors.
I am also sure you have heard of the stereotypical 'money-grubbing jew"
I then gave an example of how/why many in Germany today might accept that stereotype as every paycheck they see money taken from their wages to be given to Jews for the actions of their ancestors.
I had expected you, based on your quote, to reply that 'Yes, I can understand why they might hold a less than nice view of Jews. I can even understand how they might feel they are being 'robbed' by Jews and how that might result in antisemitic feelings.
From there you could expand that thought to all the other people having such reparation demands made of them and how many wonder if there were no concentration camps in the middle east, how other people's lands could be given to the Jews as a form of reparation for actions committed in Europe by people now dead.
So if we assume most of the world agrees with you when you say

"This also brings something else to mind.. Wether or not I should have to pay reporations for something that happen 200 years before my birth..."

Perhaps the whole world is sick of the Jews making demands and attempting to force guilt trips on them for something none of them were involved with with the possible exception of a few people now 80-years-old or older.
How many countries not paying reparations nevertheless will take taxpayer money to build museums and monuments to teach their children (read: another generation) why they should feel guilty?
The end result is today when I begin to hear about the 'poor persecuted Jew' I try to be honest and say 'I don't care. I am bored to death with the subject. I don't want to hear about it. I refuse to feel guilty about it. I was not part of it nor did I support it at the time. Enough already'

I am then informed that making such a statement will result in the 'thought police' branding me antisemitic and in many countries I could be fined or imprisoned if when speaking aloud I do not lie and claim to care. Thanks to the Jews total honesty has been outlawed in some countries. Gosh golly gee. It can't be the Jews. There must be something wrong me to think outlawing a persons right to express their honest opinion is wrong.
So they take people's money to make up for crimes they did not commit
They take people's money to finance the educating of their young as to why they should continue to allow this theft for another generation
They have outlawed free speech in many countries. You may be allowed to have an opinion but when asked to speak it aloud you are legally obligated to remain silent, lie or face fine/imprisonment.
These things, being endorsed by the Jewish community must therefore be correct and any who disagree are obviously deranged neo-nazi antisemitics.
I feel much sympathy for what happened to the Jews but I also feel a great deal of sympathy for what happened to the Roma gypsies, to the original New Zealand aborigines, to the Native Americans and the current people being killed in the Gaza strip.Do you think..???....Could it be ...??? that the claim that Jewish suffering was for one reason or another, more important than the suffering of these other people might be viewed as obnoxious by some? No no, of course not. Silly me.
But enough of me. You still have not answered my question as to what you suspect the reason is?
Are you going with a three-thousand-year-old conspiracy by Nazis?

Originally posted by theRhenn

Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
reply to post by theRhenn

 

I'm sorry, do you knowwhat a holocaust is, theRhenn? It's not a word you can just use for any old thing.

You're comparing spoken ignorance to the mass murder of over twelve million human beings.

Don't do that.

....again is the key word here. So you're saying, since it already happened once, it can never happen again?

The point is that for you to paint current issues with the word "holocaust", you are distorting the actual meaning of the word, which was the organized mass slaughter of millions of European Jews spearheaded by Hitler and executed by Nazi Germany, Vichy, Romania......... lets just say most of Europe.

Its a common thing for politicians to use the words "holocaust" and "Genocide" to describe events that technically do not qualify as Genocides, and therefore muddles the history of true genocide and the meaning of the word. (like, the Bosnian Genocide, for instance)

en.wikipedia.org...

Your point is a good one, that anti-semitism may be on the rise, which is always a sign of things beginning to worsen. Its just to say that the holocaust might be starting to happen again is unquestionably false.

Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
reply to post by theRhenn

 

I'm sorry, do you knowwhat a holocaust is, theRhenn? It's not a word you can just use for any old thing.

You're comparing spoken ignorance to the mass murder of over twelve million human beings.

Don't do that.

where do you count the 20 million russians who were killed?

i guess they aren't important and history shouldn't account for them... after all, they aren't jewish...

reply to post by theRhenn


No, I'm saying that you cannot compare slurs to human death. By doing so you cheapen those deaths (though in the case of the Holocaust, you would certainly not be the first to wipe yourself with people's remains)

Perhaps the word you're looking for is "antisemitism?"

Originally posted by Magnum007
where do you count the 20 million russians who were killed?

i guess they aren't important and history shouldn't account for them... after all, they aren't jewish...

edit on 11/11/27 by Magnum007 because: (no reason given)

Only 6 million killed in the holocaust were Jewish. There were another six million made up of everyone else. The term also refers to those killed as German prisoners. Most of those Russian deaths did not happen as POW's, but in the Eastern front itself.

I suppose you could call the deaths of everyone in that war a holocaust - a mass sacrifice. But generally it refers to the mass murder carried out by Germany against prisoners in german captivity. extra DIV