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Did US 'climate weapon' knock-out Russian probe?

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posted on Nov, 24 2011 @ 06:32 AM
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From RT today:



Russian space experts are struggling to decode fresh telemetry signals received from the stricken Phobos-Grunt probe. Meanwhile, rumors are circulating that America’s ionosphere research site in Alaska caused the spacecraft’s failure.

On Wednesday night, the European Space Agency’s station in Perth, Australia, established communication with Phobos-Grunt, which has been rotating helplessly around the Earth since its engines failed to fire two weeks ago.

The Perth station sent a command to the Russian craft which caused it to transmit long-awaited telemetry data, which was duly forwarded to Russian specialists.

Staff at the Lavochkin Association, which built the ill-fated Mars probe, are working on decoding the telemetry. Some insider reports suggested that the signal was scrambled beyond recovery due to lack of compatibility between Russian and European communications equipment, although this has been neither confirmed nor denied officially. If true, however, engineers should be able to make the necessary adjustments before the next communication session.

Meanwhile, a retired Russian general believes that the glitch which prevented Phobos-Grunt from carrying out its space mission was caused by American radar sites in Alaska.

General-Lieutenant Nikolay Rodionov, who used to command the country’s ballistic missile early warning system, told Interfax that “the powerful electromagnetic radiation of those sites may have affected the control system of the interplanetary probe.”

The general was apparently referring to the High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) site located in Gakona, Alaska. The facility’s stated purpose is the study of the ionosphere and its use for communication. But several popular conspiracy theories say it is developing a superweapon with potential to cause natural disasters on a global scale, including earthquakes, climate change and reversal of the magnetic poles.

Phobos-Grunt’s mission was to reach the Martian moon Phobos, pick up a sample of its soil, and return it to Earth. The space trip was cut short, however, when its engines failed to fire as intended.

The probe is now stuck in a low-Earth orbit, which makes communication very difficult. There had been fears of it falling to Earth, but hopes rose on Tuesday night when the ESA managed to establish radio contact.


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Is this a likely scenario? I hope someone can provide more information.




posted on Nov, 24 2011 @ 06:51 AM
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It was only a matter of time until someone blamed HAARP. Could it be the cause, possibly? Was it the cause? I highly doubt it.



posted on Nov, 24 2011 @ 06:54 AM
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When I see a claim such as this article I go and see if the elements of the article are true.

I did a search on the general and the quote and found nothing. So where did this quote comes from about


the powerful electromagnetic radiation of those sites may have affected the control system of the interplanetary probe.



Personally I thought this was probably not true because this was an expensive mission and why would the Russians not consider outside sources of transmission when launching? I's not like this is their first attempt at a launch. Also, notice that the article is the one making the connection to HAARP, not the general. Then there is the comment about incompatibility between systems and yet the ESA makes contact.

I suggest this was written by someone with little understanding of writing a coherent statement.



posted on Nov, 24 2011 @ 08:25 AM
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I doubt that the Russians have increased their communication abilities. They always were deficient in that area. Few know because it was not widely publicized (Perhaps to more "even" out the space war we supposedly had with them?) Believe it or not our deep space network DSN, the so-called Big Ear in California and facilities in Australia were the main receiver for their long-distance calls. --At least, that was the case for the original Phobos 1 and Phobos 2 missions back in the late 1980s.
An interesting twist on that is we were picking up their data first and then it was relayed by wire to Russia. --How's that for cooperation among rivals?
Certainly, we could have messed with their stuff if we wanted. And as I contend, we learned with the Vikings that Mars was the abode for the UFOs so we would have not wanted the Russians to stake their own claims on the Red planet.



posted on Nov, 24 2011 @ 08:38 AM
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FYI just read on BBC ceefax news that they have gained some communications with the probe.



posted on Nov, 24 2011 @ 10:27 AM
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It would be very easy to put sensors on the rocket/probe to detect atmospheric conditions, radiation, drag, heat....all vectors and relay that information immediately during the launch straight to a monitoring satellite, aircraft, or ground station.


Russia lacks Space Awareness. The Bear's Blind. Never put enough assets in space.....

If they don't have Spacial Awareness they have no Air Force either.



posted on Nov, 24 2011 @ 11:09 AM
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Sounds like RT is going the way of Sorcha Faal.

Phobos Grunt has an orbital inclination of 51.43º. HAARP is at 62.39ºN. The spacecraft never got anywhere near the range of the IRI at HAARP.
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posted on Nov, 24 2011 @ 12:13 PM
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Flag and star for such a quick response. I was about to post that Russian Mass Media point to US radar facilities as a possible cause for the Phobos-Grunt probe failure. I'm not quite convinced the US would dd such a thing, but if they did, isn't that space warfare of some kind? Usually the knocking out of satellites precedes a first strike. Or perhaps the US wished for the probe laden with all kinds of fun things to malfunction and plummet to death somewhere over Russian territory? /playful tone "Come on America, I thought we were friends."

Following are some Russian links pointing to a Russian Space Forces commander (N. Rodionov)
Interfax
Vesti FM
Vesti.ru

There seems to be a general non understanding why this probe acts so weirdly. Maybe it wants to seek asylum in Australia?



posted on Nov, 24 2011 @ 08:01 PM
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Originally posted by RumET
Flag and star for such a quick response. I was about to post that Russian Mass Media point to US radar facilities as a possible cause for the Phobos-Grunt probe failure. I'm not quite convinced the US would dd such a thing, but if they did, isn't that space warfare of some kind? Usually the knocking out of satellites precedes a first strike. Or perhaps the US wished for the probe laden with all kinds of fun things to malfunction and plummet to death somewhere over Russian territory? /playful tone "Come on America, I thought we were friends."

Following are some Russian links pointing to a Russian Space Forces commander (N. Rodionov)
Interfax
Vesti FM
Vesti.ru

There seems to be a general non understanding why this probe acts so weirdly. Maybe it wants to seek asylum in Australia?

that's might be possible.



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