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The subject that Immanuel Velikovsky has chosen is the psychological condition and case history of the human race. Virtually every aspect of human behavior, every pattern in human history, and every article of human belief, if examined and illuminated in the light of the thesis of this book, reveals how human thought and action have been shaped and molded by repressed collective memories of cosmic catastrophes that befell our ancestors as recently as one hundred generations ago. In the section "A Collective Amnesia" of Worlds in Collision, published in 1950, Velikovsky outlined his principal psychological thesis. His theory of collective amnesia explains the inability of people to look at the overwhelming evidence of global catastrophes -- from all parts of the world -- that is unequivocally there, and the unwillingness to see the implications of that evidence. Velikovsky put this as follows in Worlds in Collision: The memory of the cataclysms was erased, not because of lack of written traditions, but because of some characteristic process that later caused entire nations, together with their literate men, to read into these traditions allegories or metaphors where actually cosmic disturbances were clearly described.
The Royal Library of Alexandria, or Ancient Library of Alexandria, in Alexandria, Egypt, was the largest and most significant great library of the ancient world. It flourished under the patronage of the Ptolemaic dynasty and functioned as a major center of scholarship from its construction in the 3rd century BC until the Roman conquest of Egypt in 30 BC. The library was conceived and opened either during the reign of Ptolemy I Soter (323–283 BC) or during the reign of his son Ptolemy II (283–246 BC).[1] Plutarch (AD 46–120) wrote that during his visit to Alexandria in 48 BC Julius Caesar "accidentally" burned the library down when he set fire to his own ships to frustrate Achillas' attempt to limit his ability to communicate by sea.[2]
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The first known library of its kind to gather a serious collection of books from beyond its country's borders, the Library at Alexandria was charged with collecting all the world's knowledge. It did so through an aggressive and well-funded royal mandate involving trips to the book fairs of Rhodes and Athens[8] and a policy of pulling the books off every ship that came into port. They kept the original texts and made copies to send back to their owners.[1] This detail is informed by the fact that Alexandria, because of its man-made bidirectional port between the mainland and the Pharos island, welcomed trade from the East and West, and soon found itself the international hub for trade, as well as the leading producer of papyrus and, soon enough, books.
Originally posted by kdog1982
Originally posted by 1PLA1
reply to post by kdog1982
It is difficult to grow food in an ice age.
The genetics of domesticated plants shows that they were domesticated more than once.
I don't know how they figure that, but if true, it indicates a set-back somewhere along the line.
I understand that you can't grow crops in the snow and ice,but only a small portion of the globe was affected by the last ice age.
Here is a map of the world from about 18,000 years ago.
And Happybunny,I agree with you on the fact that the sea levels were lower and that much evidence was lost,as you can see from the map above.
edit on 14-11-2011 by kdog1982 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Lighterside
I'm a firm believer in "The Great Forgetting". I think that the scientific community in general don't give enough credit to our ancestors, and have the timeline of the evolution of civilization all screwed up.
I sit on the fence over ancient aliens, but I am almost certain the humans had technology and knowledge that in some regards surpass even what we know and have today.
One can only hope that one day we might find definitive evidence of our past, something that will tell the true story of humanity. We've been here a long long time, and it's pretty clear some catastrophe happened imo, that kind of reset everything, sending us... ahem "back to the stone age" so to speak.
Great post OP.
Also in a more recent history, a great example of "how to destroy and remove hundreds of years of knowledge and research", is the story of the great Library of Alexandria, burnt down, and which contained thousands of unique books and knowledge still today unknown to us for sure
Originally posted by PatriciusCaesar
Afterall,
To fix the present, we must repair the past.
Originally posted by MrsBlonde
this makes me think of the Hindu and Vedic scriptures that talk about epochs within epochs of cycles of time
creation destruction creation again....
does not conflict with some Bible and Enoch accounts and can't be separated from the conclusion that all these ancient accounts give of beings from somewhere else sin and judgement, that is also included in the ancient texts of almost every culture that creates them so I factor that in.
we live in interesting times that we have the ability to discover evidence of these past destructions
Originally posted by Lighterside
I'm a firm believer in "The Great Forgetting". I think that the scientific community in general don't give enough credit to our ancestors, and have the timeline of the evolution of civilization all screwed up.
I sit on the fence over ancient aliens, but I am almost certain the humans had technology and knowledge that in some regards surpass even what we know and have today.
One can only hope that one day we might find definitive evidence of our past, something that will tell the true story of humanity. We've been here a long long time, and it's pretty clear some catastrophe happened imo, that kind of reset everything, sending us... ahem "back to the stone age" so to speak.
Great post OP.
A Stone Age hand axe which was found on a building site could help prove part of Gloucestershire was once "almost on the seaside", experts have said.
Archaeologists uncovered the finely-worked stone tool, which may be about 100,000 years old, on a housing development in Moreton-in-Marsh.
They said they believed it may have been used by cavemen on the shores of a lake that spanned across the Midlands.
The axe is thought to have been used primarily for butchering large animals.
The tool was found by Cotswold Archaeology earlier this month on the building site at The Fire Service College.
A similar axe was found nearby a few years ago, which experts said made the latest find "hugely significant".
'Great lake'
Neil Holbrook, chief executive at Cotswold Archaeology, said: "Back in the deep distant past, before the Ice Age, there was a huge lake in central Britain covering most of what is now Warwickshire and heading up to Leicestershire, which geologists now call Lake Harrison.
"Moreton-in-Marsh would have been on the southern shore of this great lake.
"Perhaps it's just too much coincidence that we've found these two prehistoric axes in that location.
"I wonder whether these Neanderthals were coming to camp and forage on the shores of the lake?
"Perhaps it points to a time when Moreton-in-Marsh was almost on the seaside."
It is hoped the axe will be put on display in the Corinium Museum in Cirencester.
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Originally posted by RelSciHistItSufi
reply to post by kdog1982
With respect to population of Europe starting 40,000 years ago, you may find the following UK archaeological find interesting.
Handaxes were first used 1.8 million years ago and function as a sort of ‘Swiss army knife’ of the Stone Age. During that time they evolved from roughly shaped specimens to highly worked, symmetrical tools. This particular handaxe is an example of the latter and producing such a fine specimen would have involved a great deal of skill and expertise. However an experienced knapper could make one from a nodule of flint in about 20 minutes. The handaxe would have been used primarily for butchering large animals, but it could also be used for a variety of tasks from hide or wood working to plant processing. Most of the Bout Coupé handaxes are found in gravels and they are good indicators of the times when Neanderthals re-colonized the British Isles after a long period of human absence. It is thought that there was once a prehistoric lake around Moreton, and the Neanderthals perhaps camped on its banks. The sophisticated technique used to produce the tool, together with its symmetrical outline and attention to detail, suggest well developed cognitive skills of the Neanderthals and maybe even their understanding of the abstract concept of beauty. ShareThis
Originally posted by kdog1982
reply to post by Hanslune
Here is a little more info on the ax...
Handaxes were first used 1.8 million years ago and function as a sort of ‘Swiss army knife’ of the Stone Age. During that time they evolved from roughly shaped specimens to highly worked, symmetrical tools. This particular handaxe is an example of the latter and producing such a fine specimen would have involved a great deal of skill and expertise. However an experienced knapper could make one from a nodule of flint in about 20 minutes. The handaxe would have been used primarily for butchering large animals, but it could also be used for a variety of tasks from hide or wood working to plant processing. Most of the Bout Coupé handaxes are found in gravels and they are good indicators of the times when Neanderthals re-colonized the British Isles after a long period of human absence. It is thought that there was once a prehistoric lake around Moreton, and the Neanderthals perhaps camped on its banks. The sophisticated technique used to produce the tool, together with its symmetrical outline and attention to detail, suggest well developed cognitive skills of the Neanderthals and maybe even their understanding of the abstract concept of beauty. ShareThis
www.cotswoldarchaeology.co.uk...
The finely worked stone tool is between 50,000 to 30,000 years old and provides evidence of Neanderthal presence in the area.
Two reports are published in this volume: excavations in 2003 at Blenheim Farm, Moreton-in-Marsh (by Jonathan Hart and Mary Alexander) and excavations in 2004 at 21 Church Road, Bishop's Cleeve (by Kate Cullen and Annette Hancocks). Significant remains recorded at Moreton-in-Marsh include a Middle Bronze Age settlement of four post-built circular structures partly enclosed by a segmented ditch, and a series of medieval fields and paddocks with a possible sheepcote structure. A Middle Palaeolithic handaxe was also recovered. The Iron Age and medieval remains recorded at Bishop's Cleeve add to our understanding of past settlement in and around the village, where extensive development has resulted in a number of significant excavations in recent years. 94p (Bristol and Gloucestershire Archaeological Reports 5, Cotswold Archaeology 2008)