YU55 Closer Than JPL Indicates?

Originally posted by jeichelberg
So, you would say that people running around like crazed lunatics would not be fishy? You look at two crowds...one is running around crazed and fanatical...the other is calm...and you think something is fishy about the calm crowd?

Oh no, I have to say I am quite calm myself, no matter what happens. I was just pointing what struck me as obvious. And people running around crazed is not fishy because they are acting out exactly how they honestly feel, no matter how irrational it may seem to us.

Originally posted by Jason88
But, is there anything wrong with someone who is a calming presence?

There is nothing wrong with calming people, it's great. But it just bothers me how he's always sucking up to what the powers that be are spewing and people eat it up. I keep getting my posts deleted when I get too hot on a topic. This forum is BS, they put gag orders on people left and right! Those who are not "in the know" weren't supposed to be in the know in the first place, and its better that way for those who so chose it! I just want people to understand that dis-info agents WILL be planted here, there is NO if. And its better to be prepared for an emergency before it happens. Unless you're hoping to wipe out a bunch of people, then not having the prepare is the best way to do it.

I agree that the coincidence is too uncanny, and with all the previous predictions failing, such as Elenin and Obama and Denver, October 28th 3 days of darkness, FEMA setting up near Madrid during May. For those in the know, it sets the stage for not only them being prepared when SHTF but also sets up a series of failed predictions for them to go off on a "but look at all these other failed predictions" rant. Will they ever tell us if anything bad was really going to happen? We all know that answer to that: of course not! It would not be in their best interest!

If this asteroid is around 400m in size,we are in trouble. And a very small percentage of it would burn off in the atmosphere,due to it's around 20x faster than a bullet speed.As this link very clearly shows,an asteroid in that size range could destroy a small US State and an ocean impact would be worse than a land impact and it would produce far reaching tsunamis...www.astronomycafe.net...

First of all, If Katrina had hit any other country in the world, Thousands more people would have died. No one died of starvation, it was mostly a few poor souls who couldn't swim. We didn't do our best, But WE did try. Some countries *namely those who suffered from the indian tsunami* literally are so poorly prepared for any disaster.. Its not funny.

and depending on where yu55 may or may not hit, Hundreds of thousands, to maybe millions(if it struck near chinese/Japanese coasts) would be endangered.

Originally posted by jeichelberg
reply to post by abeverage

 

He thinks these asteroids are light years away...

LOL whoops I missed that...um...hmmm yes light years and yet detectible BY WHAT...lol Ok fine I will say yes if they "were" light years away and could calculate the orbits given our current technology that would be a neat trick! And possibly "hidden" information lol.

Even if it were to hit, and even if it were negligible in terms of damage, perhaps it could be "used" still.

A bomb could be detonated on a fault line deep in the ocean and maybe cause a larger tsunami, then they could say that YU55 caused it to happen.

What would we have at our disposal to say it didn't happen? Nothing.

Anyway, sounds like something out of a movie (what I just described). I personally, this time, trust NASA's call.

Many here on ATS are just bored out of their minds, so they go and make up possible scenarios over and over to keep the excitement coming. (I just did it here, so I can't complain. But, at least I let everyone know when I do it. )

Originally posted by blocula
If this asteroid is around 400m in size,we are in trouble. And a very small percentage of it would burn off in the atmosphere,due to it's around 20x faster than a bullet speed.As this link very clearly shows,an asteroid in that size range could destroy a small US State and an ocean impact would be worse than a land impact and it would produce far reaching tsunamis...www.astronomycafe.net...

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If this Asteroid struck the state of Massachusetts,it would leave a crater about 7 miles across,kill millions and devastate the entire region and all that would happen in seconds.

Originally posted by daynight42
Even if it were to hit, and even if it were negligible in terms of damage, perhaps it could be "used" still.

A bomb could be detonated on a fault line deep in the ocean and maybe cause a larger tsunami, then they could say that YU55 caused it to happen.

What would we have at our disposal to say it didn't happen? Nothing.

Oh puh-leeeeeeze.

A body of this size would be observable by radars on half a planet, on its approach. Not to mention a fireball of biblical proportions, lighting half the sky.

Originally posted by blocula
If this asteroid is around 400m in size,we are in trouble. And a very small percentage of it would burn off in the atmosphere,due to it's around 20x faster than a bullet speed.As this link very clearly shows,an asteroid in that size range could destroy a small US State and an ocean impact would be worse than a land impact and it would produce far reaching tsunamis...www.astronomycafe.net...

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First, this is the size of the object IMPACTING the Earth...if YU55 was to enter the atmosphere, it would lose a considerable amount of its size/mass during entry...more than likely, start to disintegrate...so, any remains would be smaller than the original...many models of what happens are out there one the Internet...one of them built by Purdue University...

reply to post by buddhasystem


Most models of the YU55 state there would be no fireball if it impacts the ocean...

reply to post by AnonymousCitizen

Attention Phage and AnonymousCitizen.
It appears I may have made a fundamental mistake in my analysis. Refer to plot provided by Phage:

The leveling out of the plot is an artifact of the angle of approach. If the objects were approaching each other at 180 deg angle parallel in opposite direction, you would see a plot more like the red line. Alternatively, if they were approaching parallel in the same direction, you would see the greatest degree of 'leveling out' (non collision scenario).
This scenario is somewhere in the middle since yu55 is approaching Earth at approximately 90deg. Therefore, you would see some degree of 'level off' in the data (assuming no collision).
Flip the left hand side of this chart, and you will get the one in the original post.
I hope I am correct in agreeing with your analysis!!!

Originally posted by jeichelberg
reply to post by buddhasystem

 

Most models of the YU55 state there would be no fireball if it impacts the ocean...

Let us be clear.. a 500M wide asteroid hit Jupiter and it left a crater the size of the Pacific..

www.bbc.co.uk...

"This solitary event caught us by surprise,"

that's what they will say.. unusual solar activity knocked YU55

reply to post by TomServo


I think that you've stumbled upon something important here. You should deffinatly look more into if they added anything to their formula they used to get their data. You never know..........they may be able to observe an aspect of the situation that you can't, thus leading them to an alternate conclusion. just a thought

OK. I'll try to be more clear.

Of course everyone would know that it went into the ocean., but we would not be able to discredit them when they blame it on YU55 instead of the bomb I supposed they would use to cause the more catastrophic damage.

I don't really see how else to explain it. It would be like another 9/11. The plane hits, then something ELSE (who knows what?) makes the towers fall. When we try to say WHAT made it fall, we're left with a big pile of rubble (that is quickly carted away...shh!!)? (Yes, yes, there is evidence to suggest, but for simplicity's sake everything in the towers was obliterated...except for the passport of one of the hijackers, if you can believe that.)

Originally posted by buddhasystem

Originally posted by daynight42
Even if it were to hit, and even if it were negligible in terms of damage, perhaps it could be "used" still.

A bomb could be detonated on a fault line deep in the ocean and maybe cause a larger tsunami, then they could say that YU55 caused it to happen.

What would we have at our disposal to say it didn't happen? Nothing.

Oh puh-leeeeeeze.

A body of this size would be observable by radars on half a planet, on its approach. Not to mention a fireball of biblical proportions, lighting half the sky.

reply to post by mockrock


Jupiters mass is many many many many earths though, so naturally the impact of a 500m asteroid would do thousands of times the damage it would to earth. It hit a lot "heavier" than it would on our planet.

Originally posted by jeichelberg

Originally posted by blocula
If this asteroid is around 400m in size,we are in trouble. And a very small percentage of it would burn off in the atmosphere,due to it's around 20x faster than a bullet speed.As this link very clearly shows,an asteroid in that size range could destroy a small US State and an ocean impact would be worse than a land impact and it would produce far reaching tsunamis...www.astronomycafe.net...

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First, this is the size of the object IMPACTING the Earth...if YU55 was to enter the atmosphere, it would lose a considerable amount of its size/mass during entry...more than likely, start to disintegrate...so, any remains would be smaller than the original...many models of what happens are out there one the Internet...one of them built by Purdue University...

How thick is the earths atmosphere? 300 miles at the very most and this asteroid will be travelling about 20x or 30x faster than a bullet! which is around 30,000! or 40,000mph! Theres no "time" to burn off anything much at all,perhaps 2%,if that. It would penetrate 300 miles of earths atmosphere in a very few seconds!

reply to post by Cytra


You know what...this country (USA), ever since I have been alive, has had some sort of EBS and some sort of Civil Defense structure set up for emergencies...there has been something in place in order to maintain some sort of order in case of nuclear attack, natural disaster, etc...I remember Camille in 69...that storm was MUCH worse than Katrina...had a higher storm surge, everything...made its way up the the Mississippi and dumped a whole bunch of rain on us here in NW Indiana...you know the one thing that has changed since then? Amount of information...and there you have it...people need to be informed...and instead of listening to it, they ignore it...You do not want to trust the government, fine...don't trust em...but remember, what goes round, comes round...you do not trust people, then people will not be trusting you...

reply to post by TinkerHaus


LOL!!!! Doomporn... that is going to be a tshirt or bumpersticker, you get half! that is just hilarious

Originally posted by TomServo
reply to post by AnonymousCitizen

 

Attention Phage and AnonymousCitizen.
It appears I may have made a fundamental mistake in my analysis. [snip] I hope I am correct in agreeing with your analysis!!!

Even with the data "anomaly" solved, there are still a LOT of things that seem weird. The tsunami simulation, the EAS drill, all the North America leaders together OFF the continent, the arrest of the soldier in Alaska...and on and on.

I am far away from a tsunami threat, but am preparing as if for a hurricane/earthquake/disaster/riot/martial law. Filling up the gas tank, carrying my bug out bag, and watching the various news sources. No harm in that, right?

Originally posted by blocula

Originally posted by jeichelberg

Originally posted by blocula
If this asteroid is around 400m in size,we are in trouble. And a very small percentage of it would burn off in the atmosphere,due to it's around 20x faster than a bullet speed.As this link very clearly shows,an asteroid in that size range could destroy a small US State and an ocean impact would be worse than a land impact and it would produce far reaching tsunamis...www.astronomycafe.net...

edit on 7-11-2011 by blocula because: (no reason given)

First, this is the size of the object IMPACTING the Earth...if YU55 was to enter the atmosphere, it would lose a considerable amount of its size/mass during entry...more than likely, start to disintegrate...so, any remains would be smaller than the original...many models of what happens are out there one the Internet...one of them built by Purdue University...

How thick is the earths atmosphere? 300 miles at the very most and this asteroid will be travelling about 20x faster than a bullet!!! which is around 20,000!!! or 30,000mph!!! Theres no "time" to burn off anything much at all,perhaps 2%,if that.It would penetrate 50 miles of earths atmosphere in about 1 second!

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If you study previous impact events, you'd be surprised. Take, for example,
en.wikipedia.org...

At least half of the object burned up in the air. Also, check out this:

reply to post by TomServo


There you have it. Your data now correlates with JPL's, is that correct? And now Phage, AnonymousCitizen and yourself are all on the same page? If so, thanks for an interesting thread, it was well worth it.

Edit: Jason88, a year later, is still advocating for recaps in threads, so that members who have just joined can get updated quickly without reading each page. I'm really good at creating work for others, so I think front page threads should be recapped by Forum Moderators.