Palestinians: Lieberman's remarks are an explicit threat on Abbas' life

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posted on Oct, 30 2011 @ 11:34 PM
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Originally posted by TypeSH2001
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Can the topic starter initiate a drive to return the billions of $ in International aid meant for the Palestinian people but stolen by Mr. Arafat many years ago in order to blame Israel for the woes, heartache, and poverty of the Palestinians?

You can serve your brothers in a much more meaningful way by accomplishing that challenging task than pointing fingers, yelling, screaming, and jumping up and down - don't you think?


Why would he do that, it does not make Israel look bad. The OP is filled with hate towards Israel and is a propaganda machine. Don't expect anything like objectiveness in anything he writes.




posted on Oct, 30 2011 @ 11:37 PM
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Originally posted by backinblack
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If you mean if he filed the correct number of copies with the proper offices, sure, OK, you're right. BUT the Quartet, other countries, and newspapers around the world indicated that Abbas' statehood move, outside the agreed to negotiation process, was only stirring up anti-Israeli sentiment, increasing the chances for violence, and doomed to failure anyway.


Only the pro Israel Countries and Newspapers were saying that..

Meanwhile Israel was busy announcing MORE SETTLEMENTS...

Go figure, settlements are considered the BIGGEST stumbling block to peace and yet Israel can't even hold back while trying to convince the world they are serious about this peace process.

Pathetic really and mostly brushed under the carpet by those newspapers you mention..


Well then only the pro Israel countries and newspapers have any intelligence, because that is exactly what happened. It was already 100% certain there would be a veto, and it led to an increase in anti Israel sentiment and more Israeli-Palestinian violence.



posted on Oct, 31 2011 @ 12:17 AM
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You have to remember that this tribe of Khazars are and have been some of the most ruthless people in history.

You see the pretend state of Israel, the zionists and the so called jews/Khazars in general use a strategy of provocation, they WANT conflict with their neighbors so that they can claim they act in self defense when if fact THEY are the originator of the situation, of course it doesn't hurt having a big dumb bully of of brother the United States of Israel who will be your stoolie and do all your bidding when it comes to a fight.

These people are extremely clever, diabolical, and ruthless, as they (the Khazars/so called jews) have always been through out history.

It would be a pleasure if just once their shady evil doings could be exposed by wikileaks or some other neutral organization because that would probably turn the general outside world against the worlds most troublesome tribe.

Throughout history, wherever these Khazars are, skulduggery created by them is always at hand.
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posted on Oct, 31 2011 @ 05:27 AM
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Originally posted by backinblack

Originally posted by DerbyCityLights
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Didnt he say the reason was Abbass (sp?) was hindering the peace process? I'm thinking that would be a pretty good reason for the comments made about his resignation.



Out of interest, you think Israel announcing more settlements is detrimental to the peace process??

Has Lieberman called for the resignation of those responsible for that??

IMO settlements are the biggest stumbling block to any peace...


Sorry it took so long to respond. It was a very busy weekend for me.

I honestly do not think Israeli Settlements being built on Land that was annexed by Israel from Egypt Syria and Jordan during the 1967 war, is the cause of the Palestinian unrest. And if the Palestinians believe that land is their's, they are delusional as there was no state of Palestine when the War of 1967 was fought. This land was not Palestinian land. A war was fought with the three aforementioned countries and they lost miserably. In order to give itself a better Defensive position against its surrounding hostile neighbors, Israel annexed this land. This land was never Palestinian land to begin with.
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posted on Oct, 31 2011 @ 05:53 AM
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Originally posted by OccamsRazor04

Originally posted by TypeSH2001
reply to post by Corruption Exposed
 


Can the topic starter initiate a drive to return the billions of $ in International aid meant for the Palestinian people but stolen by Mr. Arafat many years ago in order to blame Israel for the woes, heartache, and poverty of the Palestinians?

You can serve your brothers in a much more meaningful way by accomplishing that challenging task than pointing fingers, yelling, screaming, and jumping up and down - don't you think?


Why would he do that, it does not make Israel look bad. The OP is filled with hate towards Israel and is a propaganda machine. Don't expect anything like objectiveness in anything he writes.


OccamsRazor, you are an Anti Semite!

I am not filled with hate towards Israel, but I do feel hatred towards the evil Zionist Bastards who occupy it. Your lack of intelligence proves that you are unable to understand this simply obvious fact.
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posted on Oct, 31 2011 @ 06:01 AM
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Originally posted by SecondAmendmentUser
You have to remember that this tribe of Khazars are and have been some of the most ruthless people in history.

You see the pretend state of Israel, the zionists and the so called jews/Khazars in general use a strategy of provocation, they WANT conflict with their neighbors so that they can claim they act in self defense when if fact THEY are the originator of the situation, of course it doesn't hurt having a big dumb bully of of brother the United States of Israel who will be your stoolie and do all your bidding when it comes to a fight.

These people are extremely clever, diabolical, and ruthless, as they (the Khazars/so called jews) have always been through out history.

It would be a pleasure if just once their shady evil doings could be exposed by wikileaks or some other neutral organization because that would probably turn the general outside world against the worlds most troublesome tribe.

Throughout history, wherever these Khazars are, skulduggery created by them is always at hand.
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So let me get this straight, in your opinion its ok for anyone to convert to Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, etc., as long as they follow the faiths, that's fine! However, if someone converted to Judiasm in the past, especially if they were from Eastern Europe, they cannot be classified as real Jews, no matter how much they follow the faith, they are, in your book, fake Jews but Khazars, is that what you are saying?

So these (fake Jew) Khazars are ALL EVIL, Diabolical, Ruthless and use skullduggery??? Really?

I am afraid that you are very misinformed and indoctrinated with NAZI ideas, my friend. I was born Jewish myself and have known many Jews in my lifetime, most are very nice hardworking people just trying to earn a decent living standard for their families and give their kids a good education. A few I have met were not very nice people who would sell their mother, to get ahead. But saying this, I have met people of other faiths that are very similar and ruthless.

So what is a true Christian? They came from the land known as Israel, followed a Rabbi (teacher) named Yeshua, who taught the Torah (Jewish Law) therefore, by YOUR reasoning, all the Christians in the world today are fake because they don't come from Israel and do not follow the same teachings as Yeshua!

You substitute the word Khazar for Jew (or fake Jew) and think it makes you any less bigoted?

Jew, Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, Muslim, Hindu or whatever, we are all HUMAN unfortunately even NAZI's like YOU! Let's get one thing straight, it is the NAZI's who were/are evil, not the Jews.



posted on Oct, 31 2011 @ 08:35 AM
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Let’s Please Remember Our Manners

While I suppose it's inevitable Godwin's Law will be invoked in a thread like this one, name-calling and other forms of ad hominem attacks are never appropriate for any reason.

What makes ATS possible is bringing together people with different points of view and sharing them in a civil, scholarly atmosphere. Personal attacks are the very antithesis of that and are an affront to the entire community.

Posts containing insults such as some of the examples above are subject to removal, and members who persist in making them are subject to suspension or termination of posting privileges.

Rather than do that, let's please be civil, ALERT posts if you think they violate the AboveTopSecret.com Terms And Conditions Of Use, and bear in mind that while we may not agree on various issues, the ability of every member to express their opinions without suffering abuse or other improper forms of retaliation is absolutely essential to denying ignorance.

Meanwhile, theories about Khazars and other notions may bear some peripheral relationship to the topic, but seem rather far afield of what this thread is actually about, which is the controversy surrounding remarks made by an Israeli cabinet official and how they might be interpreted.

Maybe we should just focus on that.

As always, thanks to everyone who didn't need to be reminded about courtesy or the topic.




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posted on Oct, 31 2011 @ 11:32 AM
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My apologies, I just cannot stand the ignorance on ATS when it comes to Jews!

Back to the thread:

I don't see how these remarks can honestly be seen as an attempt to assassinate Abbas! Israel never ever assassinated Yasser Arafat the Egyptian leader of the PLO who was a bigger obstacle to peace! Why assassinate the Jordanian leader of the PLO/PA who is certainly more moderate?



posted on Oct, 31 2011 @ 04:50 PM
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So these (fake Jew) Khazars are ALL EVIL, Diabolical, Ruthless and use skullduggery??? Really?



I'm sure you have read your history and the Khazarian (AshkaNAZI) are perhaps the most violent and psychotic tribes ever. This is just reality, of course since most of those same people control the media, and publishing much of the facts have been buried by not being printed, or deleted from the internet. Much of the information can only be found in books printed many decades ago if not centuries ago. Some of this has found its way to the internet but is often deleted. To prevent the truth from being aired.

FYI where do you think the word "AshkaNAZI" came from ?




posted on Nov, 1 2011 @ 08:12 AM
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Here we go, more stupid ignorant biggotry!

Buying into the Khazarian BS does not make it true, for you or anyone else no matter how much you want to believe it to be true!

Yeah those evil Joo's, they sure as hell duped the Holy Inquisition and the Nazi's, not to mention how they inspired Solath Sar (Pol Pot) and the Khmer Rouge.

Did you know Pol Pot was Jooish, along with Adolf Hitler, Stalin, Gadaffi, Bin-Laden, Saudi Royal Family! All Jooish, thats the biggoted rubbish I have seen posted on ATS and its so pathetic.

BTW, In Yiddish Ashkanas means Europe, Ashkanasi means a person from this region! Like Pakistan = Pakistani!

NAZI is shortened nickname for 'National Socialist' they have absolutely NO connection! DUH

Now can we get back on topic?

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posted on Nov, 1 2011 @ 11:40 AM
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Originally posted by Hongkongphooey
Here we go, more stupid ignorant biggotry!

Buying into the Khazarian BS does not make it true, for you or anyone else no matter how much you want to believe it to be true!



Now can we get back on topic?



You see there is nothing to buy into, because what I said about the Khazars and AshkaNAZI is fact and truth.

The behavior of these violent tribes I spoke of IS on the topic, it is why these insane warriors want even more nuclear weaponry. They are some of the most violent and psychopathic in recorded history.

Yes, I am bigoted against violent and psychotic creatures. Absolutely.



posted on Nov, 1 2011 @ 11:48 AM
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"Khazaria" seems to be a reference to a nation that may have actually existed in the Caucuses.

That area in Caucuses were a major crossroads and trade route junction for thousands of years.

The Mongolian and Viking invasions are apparently well documented for that region.

The intermingled population had to end up somewhere if military invasions caused migrations on several occasions.

There is at least some possible evidence from Russian scholars (however reliable they may be) and others that the region had a kingdom, and that merchant influences may have negociated a mass religious conversion to Judaism.

The reliability of historical accounts lies with the interpreters.

Not much solid proof exists either way.

There very well could have been a mass migration from that area to northern Europe.

Some DNA evidence exists with Ashkenazi Jews having some Mongolian DNA.


Khazars

Ashkenazi Jews


Ashkenazi Jews, also known as Ashkenazic Jews or Ashkenazim (Hebrew: אַשְׁכֲּנָזִים‎‎, pronounced [ˌaʃkəˈnazim], singular: [ˌaʃkəˈnazi]; also יְהוּדֵי אַשְׁכֲּנָז, Y'hudey Ashkenaz, "the Jews of Ashkenaz"), are the Jews descended from the medieval Jewish communities along the Rhine in Germany from Alsace in the south to the Rhineland in the north. Ashkenaz is the medieval Hebrew name for this region and thus for Germany. Thus, Ashkenazim or Ashkenazi Jews are literally "German Jews." Later, Jews from Western and Central Europe came to be called "Ashkenaz" because the main centers of Jewish learning were located in Germany. Ashkenaz is also a Japhetic patriarch in the Table of Nations (Genesis 10).


Judaic/Khazar traders



posted on Nov, 1 2011 @ 01:01 PM
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I still do not believe that the comments about Abbas were construed as a plea for his assassination. I do however believe that the statements did indeed strongly recommend he be removed from his position of power. Here is just another example of why this statement holds merit with Israel.


No Jewish State



“First of all, let me make something clear about the story of the ‘Jewish state,’” he told Dream2 TV on October 23, 2011. “They started talking to me about the ‘Jewish state’ only two years ago, discussing it with me at every opportunity, every forum I went to – Jewish or non-Jewish – asking: ‘What do you think about the Jewish state?‘ I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: I will never recognize the Jewishness of the state, or a ‘Jewish state.’”


So, Israel has actually tried to get some symbolism of peace in the region but yet Abbas says Israel will never exist to him or his people.

The video of Abbas saying these exact words are in the link I posted, just so there is no doubt.





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