The Russian Sleep experiment, page 2
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reply posted on 10-10-2011 @ 02:49 PM by wigit
That first story is a fantastic piece of horrific sc-fi, I hope.

I remember a programme years ago about a scandal in Australia that involved keeping people asleep for months on end. Tried to google for it and this came up.


Australian Chelmsford Scandal

Twenty-six patients died at Chelmsford Private Hospital during the 1960s and 1970s, with only perfunctory investigation by authorities. After the failure of the agencies of medical and criminal investigation to tackle complaints about Chelmsford, a series of articles in the early 1980s in the Sydney Morning Herald exposed the abuses at the hospital and forced the authorities to take action, and a Royal Commission was appointed.[8]



The New South Wales government recently admitted that three people over the last three years had been kept continuously unconscious for 48 hours whilst undergoing ECT


Give the wrong people power over others and they can get very carried away. Frightening stuff.

What Killed Case 98?



Poor unfortunates who got onto the Chelmsford doctors' "conveyer belt to psychiatric hell" did not all end up in the doctors' own private hospital in the northern Sydney suburbs. The simple fact of the matter was that the good doctors did not have much in the way of equipment there. Sure they could strap patients down and apply electroshock And they had beds into which patients drugged into a deep coma could lie for days soaking in their own excreta in the care of partly trained nurses. But when it came to monitoring the condition of their patients ... well they did not have much equipment, and certainly were not set up for surgery.



reply posted on 10-10-2011 @ 05:01 PM by Lynda101
I wonder who wrote this story, its horrendously fascinating.

But it throws me back to remembering that several big religious leaders, through sleep deprivation had major 'religious experiences' Mohammed was one, he use to take himself up onto the mountain and didn't sleep and become delirious with religious fervour and the other was The Buddha who sat under a tree for some length of time not sleeping.

The essence of this story made me think, where do people go when they get past the protective barrier of either sleep or they access the 'otherworld'. Christianity papered over the concept of an underworld, that most ancient civilisations believed in. It funnelled that concept down into a revamped hell, merely a place of pain which served Christianity's clinical purpose. Graham Hancock covered the 'otherworld' when he wrote in one of his books about his experience with the Shaman of South America and (something that must remain nameless on this website lest I get a verbal smack). He tells us of an experience religion today cannot deliver. What makes this so interesting is that it can .empirically' researched because he repeated the experience as have many others.

I wonder if there are different 'underworlds' or are they really (as per the story) states of our consciousness that are a part of us that has, through various contrivences become completely detached from our psyche?.


Perhaps, its by breaking the boundary sleep provides, that its possible to enter into another consciousness.
I have always wondered who said 8 hours of sleep was needed per night. I have had insomnia for years and often got through a huge amount of work or came up with new ideas and solutions when working in the past. Most of my friends all accept 8 hours sleep, but Margaret Thatcher and Winnie got by with 4 hours per night.
If one accepts that concept, then very few of us will ever push the envelope into the unconscious world that may well be a part of our heritage.


reply posted on 10-10-2011 @ 11:44 PM by yaluk
reply to post by RisenAngel77



lack of sleep makes you cranky excessive lack of sleep is detrimental to your health.

Monks used to do it big deal

nice fiction though .


reply posted on 11-10-2011 @ 01:39 AM by timidgal
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Screwed - I can so relate to what you are saying. This syndrome (for lack of a better description) is by and large the reason why my marriage fell apart.

I am a chronic insomniac and have been for most of my life. I can sometimes go for 24-36 hours without sleep and still function "somewhat" normally. The longest I have ever gone is a little over 48 hours and by that point, I was disoriented and my thinking was sluggish and distorted. Someone who did not know me would probably think that I was drunk or had taken something; however, that's not why my marriage fell apart. It happened because my ex-spouse suffered from what you describe and for some reason, he couldn't get his consciousness to relax and sleep when I was not able to. He became (and continues to become to this day) an entirely different person who is nasty, snide, without empathy or consideration for anyone else. He becomes narciassstic and engages in self-destructive behavior because he can't control it. Major difference between you and he is that to this day, he still won't acknowledge this and blames other people for his actions "if only you hadn't deprived me of my #en sleep, I wouldn't act that way". It became unbearable. I am no longer around him 24/7 but there are times when the kids are with him and I'm unaware that he is going through one of his sleep deprivation cycles (I guess his worries over my lack of sleep were replaced by other things that make him unable to relax). I never worry for their physical safety because he has never shown this inclination but I've also learned that emotional abuse can be just as, if not more so, damaging.

Thanks for sharing your story. Perhaps it will open the eyes of some others who suffer the way you do and they will start taking responsibility for their actions and do something about a problem that affects not only themselves but everyone around them.

Timidgal
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