The Russian Sleep experiment, page 1


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Topic started on 9-10-2011 @ 10:46 PM by RisenAngel77
Awhile back, I remember reading this short story that creeped the hell out of me. Not because the short story was good, but because of the possibility of it being real. Now the "Russian experiment" itself may as well be a work of fiction, (then again who knows?)however the part that mind-blown me was the "result" of the experiment. Which is why I posted this here in paranormal studies instead of the short story forum.

So as a measure to not spoil the experience I will post my thoughts at the end of the image. So for those who don't want "spoilers" try and not scroll past the image.









Now reason this creeped me out is because of this: we all experience a moment of "Crankiness" when we have the lack of sleep. According to scientific studies a human being may die from sleep deprivation. However things like this has been done in the past it seems by the CIA.




CIA interrogators at Guantanamo Bay subjected dozens of detainees to sleep deprivation, shackling the prisoners in a standing position for up to 11 days at a time. Recently released Justice Department memorandums claim sleep deprivation studies show that "surprisingly, little seem[s] to go wrong with the subjects physically." Wait, is it really safe to go without sleep?

No—extended bouts of sleeplessness can cause an array of physical symptoms and might eventually kill you. The effects begin within the first 24 hours of sleep deprivation.



However then there is this part.



he body undergoes subtle hormonal changes—cortisol and TSH levels increase, leading to a rise in blood pressure. A day or two later, it stops metabolizing glucose properly, creating carbohydrate cravings. (This phenomenon may have gone unnoticed among the detainees, who were already on a calorie-restricted diet.) A person's body temperature will also drop, and his or her immune response becomes somewhat suppressed. All of these physiological changes are reversible, though—take a nap, and you'll be on the road back to normal.




www.slate.com...


It seems that sleep deprivation does cause changes within. But due to the uncertainty and the lies conducted by the government, this may as well be a mystery and not a scientific fact. But one thing I do know, our moods shift dramatically when we have lack of sleep.


None the less, I think this is a very interesting topic, and I thought I'd share this find. Even if it was a work of fiction it was a very interesting thought. And if it is not a work of fiction, do we really want to find out?

Hope you found these train of thoughts interesting as I have.





reply posted on 9-10-2011 @ 11:30 PM by Mouldilocks
reply to post by BigBruddah



How did the experimentation work out?

Sometimes I get bouts of Insomnia. Sometimes I purposely stay awake longer than I would usually.

Aside from being tired, all it seems to get me is pounding heart, headache, nausea and dissociation. Mostly. But sometimes, all the negative aside, I get very creative in my thoughts and quite philosophical, which I like tapping into.

Have you found abstaining from sleep productive?

ETA: I realise you may not be intentionally 'experimenting'! Just wondered how, if at all, your thoughts changed as a result.
edit on 9-10-2011 by Mouldilocks because: edit!



reply posted on 9-10-2011 @ 11:40 PM by BeforeTheHangmansNoose
reply to post by RisenAngel77



Wow i have never read something so... scary as i have that. It's so vivid, it really does seem like the basis of a horror film. However there was one part in the story where it was written "blew his brains out". I'm not sure who the author of this story is but this single statement gives me the impression all of it, or at least a small portion is fiction as it seems to lack seriousness in nature.

None the less, amazing story. Truly frightening what happens when you don't get enough sleep.

When we sleep, our consciousness leaves our body. We don't know where it goes, but its not there.

Think of it like this.

When you are awake you can "knock on the door" of your mind, and your consciousness will respond. Essentially it is at 'home'.

When you are asleep you can "knock on the door" of your mind, and your consciousness will not respond. Essentially it is not at 'home'.

This gives me the impression that it is not our body that needs to sleep, but our consciousness. It MUST visit an external location (lets just say some astral dream world or another dimension or web of consciousness where it goes to exist for a set period of time [assuming the idea of time exists there]).

Perhaps sleep is like food for your consciousness, if you don't eat, you will experience the effects.

Personally the idea of a holographic universe seems more and more plausible.

Thankyou for sharing though.


reply posted on 10-10-2011 @ 12:36 AM by Timetraveller
reply to post by RisenAngel77



If the story is true, the subjects seem to have been possessed.


reply posted on 10-10-2011 @ 05:22 AM by Havick007
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wow that is an amazing story an to be honest it's the first OP i have read in it's entirity for sometime, thank you so much for sharing!

I have gone through stages where i havent slept for 2-3 days, 51 hours was the longest i have been awake - without the use of drugs and mainly due to insomnia and although nothing like that has ever happened thank goodness, i can relate to the paranoia setting in and crankiness plus minor hallucinations and seeing things out of the corner of your eyes.

You get to a point where you become so overtired that you are no longer tired, but it is almost impossible to concentrate for very long and it's easy to become depressed.


Sad story for the 5 test subjects


Thanks again for sharing


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reply posted on 10-10-2011 @ 05:43 AM by nineix
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It's interesting where studies indicate detrimental effects for lack of sleep, caloric restriction and other such things, but, then you look at other studies like the longevity study with caloric restriction that gives indication of a much longer life span in subjects that consistently starve themselves on a regular basis throughout their lives.

In regards to losing sleep and crankiness, as a writer and artist, I will often stay up for 3 or 4 days straight without bother when I'm on a real creative tear. I feel more alive and the creativity just flows so much better in the absence of sleep.
After I get to a point of satisfaction in the work, days have gone by and I'll take a break, sleep a few hours, and then do it all over again.

Edit: additonally, the only chemical additive intake in my system consists of coffee and cigarettes.

All in all, I feel fine, and everyone I know asks me how I stay looking 10-15 years younger than my actual age.
I barely ever eat, and I don't really sleep much, even when i'm not working on a project.
I'm exceptionally healthy, trim, never get ill, so, what gives?

Right now, I haven't slept for at least 2 days. I do however tend to lose count.
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reply posted on 10-10-2011 @ 10:35 AM by mnmcandiez
reply to post by RisenAngel77



You don't need to re-clarify anything. Some people would take this as fact and need to be told it is fake.

As you can see most replies had the terms "if it is true" in it. It isn't, it's 100% fiction and you should label it such in your OP. People are gullible.
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reply posted on 10-10-2011 @ 10:43 AM by DJM8507
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www.abovetopsecret.com...

Very entertaining, although I am leaning on the side of it being Fiction.
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