Republican: the party of ignorance and greed?

Originally posted by nightbringr
reply to post by spiritualzombie

 

Use the term "hive live mentality" much?

It is clear the OP is regurgitating anti republican doctrine he has read somewhere. If he had half a brain he would realize democrats are tax and spend money writers who can only about winning reelection and nothing about the nations finances.

Sound like a description of the Bush administration to me.
Second line...

Conservatism is actually worst or as bad as the GOP philosophy
In fact Republicans are all conservatives of the worst kind.

They have no moral human based ethics.

They only are concerned with the rich and powerful forces that usually rule society and not the downtrodden

They have been against every human centered policy that the government has been for, including

Social Security

Unemployment insurance

Child labor laws

Civil rights laws

Laws that stop people from being forced to work overtime

Against the minimum wage

Against anything that helps middle class or poor people

WHAT POLICIES THAT HELP THE VAST LOT OF HUMAN BEINGS ARE THE REPUBLICAN CONSERVATIVES FOR?

reply to post by inforeal


Yet again, a bigoted, uninformed retort.

No, not all Reps are conservative, and not all Conservatives are Rep.

Now you are just trolling for trolling sake.

Originally posted by inforeal
Conservatism is actually worst or as bad as the GOP philosophy
In fact Republicans are all conservatives of the worst kind.

They have no moral human based ethics.

They only are concerned with the rich and powerful forces that usually rule society and not the downtrodden

They have been against every human centered policy that the government has been for, including

Social Security

Unemployment insurance

Child labor laws

Civil rights laws

Laws that stop people from being forced to work overtime

Against the minimum wage

Against anything that helps middle class or poor people

WHAT POLICIES THAT HELP THE VAST LOT OF HUMAN BEINGS ARE THE REPUBLICAN CONSERVATIVES FOR?

We also take ball-peen hammers to burlap sacks of tiny kittens.
You forgot that one.

reply to post by beezzer


Never meant to paint either of you in a corner, conservative and republican have become synonymous with the introduction of the term RINO, much the same way as liberal and democrat have become synonymous.

Originally posted by BubbaJoe
reply to post by beezzer

 

Never meant to paint either of you in a corner, conservative and republican have become synonymous with the introduction of the term RINO, much the same way as liberal and democrat have become synonymous.

I think the democrat counterpart (to RINO) you are looking for is "blue dog democrat".

Originally posted by macman
reply to post by inforeal

 

Yet again, a bigoted, uninformed retort.

No, not all Reps are conservative, and not all Conservatives are Rep.

Now you are just trolling for trolling sake.

Yet, you guys would easily try to paint anyone that goes against conservative beliefs or the GOP as Liberals, Commie Socialists, or Democrats.

You can't have it both ways here.

reply to post by Cuervo


Dude, you and Inforeal seem to be nice with each other.
Can help to calm and inform please?

Enlighten maybe?

reply to post by illuminatislave


I guess so.

Inforeal, are you a Democrat?
Are you a Liberal?
Are you a Socialist?
Are you a Communist?

Is that better?

reply to post by macman


Why don’t the conservative GOP’ers ever deal with facts and debate the moral aspect of issues that concern people and the lack of morality behind your “ principles”

You call me a troll because you don’t have the intellectual capacity to even defend the indefensible.

Because I destroy your weak arguments you resort to calling ma a troll

Because I point out logical facts that you never refute you resort to your name calling and insults

you are exposed

reply to post by Cuervo


and to the fringe of both sides they have become profanities. There is so much hypocrisy on both sides, that it almost seems that moderates have no chance. If we claim to centrist, we are accused of having no standards, people are trying to force every issue to black and white, and leave no room for any shade of gray.

reply to post by illuminatislave


I guess that it also comes with the idea that when inforeal and others are labeled as Liberals, they don't correct the statement.

Beezer and I do. ALL THE TIME.

Originally posted by illuminatislave

Yet, you guys would easily try to paint anyone that goes against conservative beliefs or the GOP as Liberals, Commie Socialists, or Democrats.

You can't have it both ways here.

edit on 25-9-2011 by illuminatislave because: (no reason given)

You forgot progressive marxists.

Just sayin'

reply to post by macman


I am a human being who cares for my fellow human.

reply to post by romanmel


Like I said earlier, politics are gray. However, actions are concrete and people remember them. Both parties’ leaders are making some horrendous choices. There is little middle ground anymore…it’s like the trench warfare of WW1. Democrats, as well as Republicans are spending money in wasteful programs.

One argument is without tax breaks, employers won’t hire, but then they don’t hire anyways. Mostly because they don’t trust the current government. So they are biding their time to see how it pans out. Not necessarily a smart move, but I can’t blame them either given the short track record.

Another argument is entitlements. Social security is a benefit, not a entitlement. Benefits are earned. SS was not meant to be a retirement fund which it has turned into. It was meant to supplement retirement originally. A reward for working hard and paying your taxes if you will.

Welfare is an entitlement which was originally intended to be a helping hand up, not a way of life.

Both need to be reformed.

If businesses do not trust the government…it will only get worse.

People of both parties need to remember the mantra of the ‘90s. “It’s the economy stupid!” (Not callin’ ya stupid by the way)

If the economy crashes…and it seems to be doing so as I type, we all fall.

ETA: Granny makes for a poor speedbump…she’s kinda squishy.

Originally posted by illuminatislave

Originally posted by macman
reply to post by inforeal

 

Yet again, a bigoted, uninformed retort.

No, not all Reps are conservative, and not all Conservatives are Rep.

Now you are just trolling for trolling sake.

Yet, you guys would easily try to paint anyone that goes against conservative beliefs or the GOP as Liberals, Commie Socialists, or Democrats.

You can't have it both ways here.

edit on 25-9-2011 by illuminatislave because: (no reason given)

Then just own it. I openly admit I'm a bleeding heart liberal with socialist dreams (but I am NOT a democrat; thems fightin' words) but I still get along just fine with my fundie friends on the right. If either party or "side" was the right one, why aren't problems fixed when either party is in? Obviously each have key components that are necessary and each have manufactured and strategically thought-out flaws that intentionally keep us at each other's throats.

Want to buck the system? Want to tear down the false and made-up left/right paradigm? Then accept the people on the other side as people with valid concerns and then just laugh off their insults to you. Eventually it stops and you create more people who aren't fooled.

Remember, neither the DNC nor the GOP has fixed our nation. Choosing the lesser of evils is still choosing evil.

Originally posted by inforeal
reply to post by macman

 

Why don’t the conservative GOP’ers ever deal with facts and debate the moral aspect of issues that concern people and the lack of morality behind your “ principles”

You call me a troll because you don’t have the intellectual capacity to even defend the indefensible.

Because I destroy your weak arguments you resort to calling ma a troll

Because I point out logical facts that you never refute you resort to your name calling and insults

you are exposed

You want me to expose myself???
What???


Look, all you do is drive the bandwagon of Rep=Evil.
There is nothing new, especially given your past threads.

There is no logic behind you, only emotion. That was pointed out by others.

What you are doing is trolling, sorry but that is a fact.

I can't answer for Conservative GOP'ers. Sorry.
But, that does not give right away to your bigoted one-sided view of them.

Just like Dems, there are many different flavors.

If you want to talk about facts, then we can. Once you stop with the whole Rep=evil crap.
Might as well call me poo-poo face and take your ball home.

And you have yet to destroy anything but your past creditability here.

reply to post by spiritualzombie


Really now, you actually think like really, that the two political parties are that different. I think it's time for a reality check. Maybe a recap of all the promises made by the existing Republicrat should be made. My how we forget about the important parts of the past.

Originally posted by inforeal
reply to post by macman

 

I am a human being who cares for my fellow human.

That's nice.

Now why should my tax money go towards your train of thought?

I do more with my money, then the Govt could do in 10 lifetimes, within the scope of helping my fellow man.

Originally posted by BubbaJoe
reply to post by Cuervo

 

and to the fringe of both sides they have become profanities. There is so much hypocrisy on both sides, that it almost seems that moderates have no chance. If we claim to centrist, we are accused of having no standards, people are trying to force every issue to black and white, and leave no room for any shade of gray.

There was a great speaker I saw who was deeply into journalism in the 70's and 80's. The most disturbing thing he noticed with the passing of time is that the people who used to be marginalized back then for being too extreme are the only ones who are listened to now days. And the moderate, middle-of-the-road people of today are marginalized as "dreamers". Just look at the most successful news opinion shows and you can see how none of them are middle of the road (even though Ratigan comes close).