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I am a Psychopath, does that make me a bad person?

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posted on Nov, 28 2015 @ 04:26 PM
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a reply to: cavtrooper7

I'm a Marine, and I think it provides direction and focus. I've been to Iraq and Afghanistan and I don't see where loyalty in the face of death should be an issue. I mean unless someone is completely useless like Bergdahl, (and it's not hard to spot them, and we keep them out of position to get others hurt for the most part) mission accomplishment is the only option. You're going to do what you have to do.




posted on Nov, 28 2015 @ 04:54 PM
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a reply to: watchitburn

I got a question. You're supposed more objective view than people with deep emotions. What's your worldview? I figure we're all predators, homo-sapiens, some more aware than others. Guess that would be you. More pertaining to the situation in the US. How many psychopaths do you figure are high ranked running the system in Washington? My wonder was if they were simply incompetent, or all-in for the chaos cuz they psycho. Lately the two have blended in a bit in my thoughts, thinking a layer of incompetence and more psycho than average, but basically blinded by their position, trying to keep it no matter the consequences.

Do you think we're gonna get out of this mess without a watchitburn, or should I not listen to you cause you're likely to manipulate my perception towards an outcome you'd like, or is this a meaningless conversation and I'm wasting my time? Only person I knew who was psycho made my head spin, cause no matter what happened they'd waltz on and always find an angle to twist it back on you.

What's your view on karma? After encountering this beast I came to think of it more having to do with the ability to form a conscience, where as those who don't have one won't have karma effect them unless the group outed them and then only until they found a new ground to roam.



posted on Nov, 28 2015 @ 06:00 PM
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a reply to: watchitburn

Did you self diagnose yourself as psychopathic? Not that its makes much difference as

en.wikipedia.org...


Although no psychiatric or psychological organization has sanctioned a diagnosis titled "psychopathy", assessments of psychopathic characteristics are widely used in criminal justice settings in some nations





Psychopathy has often been considered untreatable. Harris and Rice's Handbook of Psychopathy says that there is little evidence of a cure or effective treatment for psychopathy; no medications can instill empathy, and psychopaths who undergo traditional talk therapy might become more adept at manipulating others and more likely to commit crime


ARe you lying to us now?



posted on Nov, 28 2015 @ 06:04 PM
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a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

He's repeatedly stated in this thread to be in the military diagnosed by DOD psych. You're like the 10+ person to ask if he self diagnosed. Why is it so difficult for people to accept that someone can seem fairly normal online and be totally psycho?

ASPD is likely what he was diagnosed, but people refer to it commonly as psychopathy or sociopathy. It's all just semantics as nobody agrees exactly on the distinctions between the three. Typically most people say sociopathy more hot headed and environmentally caused, whereas psychopathy cold hearted born with the wiring.



posted on Nov, 28 2015 @ 06:12 PM
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a reply to: ringdingdong

We're on an anonymous internet forum, so I don't see what there would be to gain from manipulating other anonymous people here. Internet points?

I don't really go out of my way to manipulate people, I mean it's not like I'm sitting here plotting out some grand diabolical scheme or something. Or at least I don't think I am. I don't care about people, I largely have no use for people other than sex. I can go whole days without having contact with another human being and be perfectly content.

As far as the politicians go. I despise all of them because they're all corrupt scumbags. Now I don't have a problem with corruption itself. Like big corporation CEO's, it's their job to make their company as profitable and efficient as they can. So they do. I can't fault them for that.

But if you run for an elected position, get elected and swear an oath to do whats in the best interest of the people who elected you. Then that's what you should do.
Like I'm in the military, if the SHTF I would be up on my roof picking off looters and rioters because it would be fun and I could probably get away with it. But if I was ordered as a serviceman to shoot at Americans in a Martial Law situation, I would tell them to pound sand, because that is contrary to the terms of my oath of service. If that makes any sense.

I have no intention of helping anyone through the mess this country is in other than myself. If someone is helped through some action of mine it would be purely incidental.

Karma is a concept invented by people who get screwed over to make themselves feel better.



posted on Nov, 28 2015 @ 06:19 PM
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a reply to: watchitburn

Thanks for the reply. I'm interested in why you would stick to the terms of Oath as a military man. Do you internalize the code, as in does it hold meaning to you and do you value it for what it stands for.... or is it more strategic and self-serving, as in the military provides you things you like in life, and it would be too much troubles to go against the code and face the consequences.

Guess what I'm getting at... it seems some psychopaths are incapable of forming their own code without a frame of reference already created. So they latch onto a religion, military, gang code and such. It's easy for them to stick to black and white rules due to their wiring, but I wonder if this is still a strategy of survival, an attempt to blend in and get what they want overall, or if they do in fact find the code to have a ... personal meaning to them. Hmmm, don't know if I can explain that one properly without involving emotions.



posted on Nov, 28 2015 @ 06:36 PM
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a reply to: ringdingdong

That's a good question.
When I 1st joined the Marines if someone asked why? I would have told them because I get a gun for free and get paid to kill people, plus medical and dental and food and a place to sleep.

But 15 years later, I think the "code" as you called it, starts to become muscle memory. I've heard a saying that "You are what you repeatedly do" And you can only tell the guys that work for you to do the right thing for the right reason so many times before you start drinking your own cool-aid. We are supposed to lead by example also.

Maybe I just want it to mean something. I don't know. But if you have a broad enough perspective, everything becomes irrelevant.



posted on Nov, 28 2015 @ 06:43 PM
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originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: ringdingdong

Maybe I just want it to mean something. I don't know. But if you have a broad enough perspective, everything becomes irrelevant.


Well I see it more that whatever meaning someone finds is personal to them, not objective and intrinsic.

Good thoughts.

Thanks.



posted on Nov, 28 2015 @ 10:43 PM
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a reply to: watchitburn


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posted on Nov, 30 2015 @ 07:32 AM
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a reply to: filosophia




I would argue that if you can use reason you are not really a psychopath, because pychopaths have no feelings,


some symptons of psychopaths...


antisocial behavior, diminished empathy and remorse

Where did you get the idea that they have no sense of time?



posted on Nov, 30 2015 @ 07:36 AM
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the Military has become a real 'people-person' kind of job with all this peacekeeping and nation building going on. Wouldn't that be a real BAD place for a person with your....unique outlook on life?


"Nation building" Are you being sarcastic or serious? A psychopathic military force fits right in with the current observed behaviour Military
edit on 30-11-2015 by TheConstruKctionofLight because: spelling



posted on Nov, 30 2015 @ 07:53 AM
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a reply to: watchitburn

why do you think you are a bad person

This thread is four years old why did it jump start
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posted on Dec, 6 2015 @ 08:21 AM
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Largely, your actions define whether you are "bad" or not, within this society.

Perhaps you would not feel remorse after committing a murder, but it is the murder that is the problem.

It is not hard to understand societal standards and expectations, whether you empathise or agree with them or not.

So, if your actions are decent, you are decent. If your actions are bad, no matter how you feel about them, you are bad. Simple as that.



posted on Dec, 6 2015 @ 08:29 AM
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Narcissism is rampant in this world and you are probably just un-diagnosed .

Once you realize what you are, you can make changes yourself.

It is really quite simple, just ask yourself before you do something you think someone else may not like, if you would like someone to do the same to you.

If you wouldn't like someone to do it to you, you simply don't do that to somebody else.

The first step toward solving a problem is to admit there is one at all.

Quit drinking, it's a crutch and doesn't help in the end.



posted on Dec, 6 2015 @ 08:49 AM
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a reply to: MyHappyDogShiner

Yea, but that's only a problem for people with empathy.

Psychopaths don't have that problem.



posted on Dec, 6 2015 @ 09:57 AM
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originally posted by: jonnywhite
If aliens attacked earth and were by all measures a much superior race AND most people thought the humans were going to lose, but fought anyway because that's what humans do...

Do you:
1) Drop your weapon and become his slave, leaving behind other humans to die.
2) Lie to him and try to shoot him so that you can rejoin other people in the fight to survive.


By all measures a much superior race then yes one should take the slave option. This alien species has FTL travel tech. But without being in the moment one can never say for certain. I think a lot of humans would take the shot and a lot of others would aim and not shoot.



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