Bombshell: Emails Reveal Direct White House Tie to Solyndra Scandal

is it just me or does it seem like no matter what happens anymore, no heads will roll? i agree, this seems big and i would think info like this would be damning. but just like an earlier poster said, nobody hears this on the news! and then we on ats all get angry until we find something else to be angry about.

it seems every evil-doer in the united states gov't is teflon, ultimately. the media, most americans, won't even touch issues that cut to the very fabric of our society, even the global society. important issues.

i know i am preaching to the choir but this is another example of a trend that is very troubling to me. i'll do my part.

Mass Arrests are not far away, which leads to the implementation of the new financial system - along with global debt forgiveness.

The Satanic pedo cabal are toast.

Get ready for celebrations people!

An interesting article that questions the "scandalous" elements of the Solyndra news that is providing the latest platform for attacking the Obama administration is titled: "How Conservatives and Big Oil are Using a Phony Scandal to Undermine Obama, Clean Energy, and Government Itself" written by Dave Johnson:

www.alternet.org... lf/

Article summary:

It's no surprise that conservative & oil interests are pushing "deceptive and destructive" stories about Obama and clean energy.

Solyndra was partly backed by the conservative Walton family (Walmart), and received a loan, which was originally pushed by the Bush administration.

When the economy went south, Solyndra could not compete with subsidized Chinese companies. Solyndra went bankrupt and this is being used by conservatives and oil interests as a "platform to attack green energy and the idea of green jobs in general, solar power in particular, President Obama as always, stimulus funding and the idea of developing a national strategic industrial policy to push back on China and others…"

The article follows FOX News promoting this story as a "scandal" to its jump into the "mainstream," being picked up by ABC and others… It questions the alleged "ties" of the Obama administration to Solyndra, and looks at the "newly uncovered emails" that have been touted to accuse the White House of direct involvement.

The article gives reference to another article by Michael Grunwald that summarizes the entire deal titled: "Big Name Investors Behind Obama's Failed Green Tech Bet First in Line to Recoup Losses"

swampland.time.com... which concludes:

"This is sure to play out as a scandal, but based on what we know so far, it shouldn’t be. Private loans go south all the time… The Obama administration has made bets on hundreds of clean-energy companies in dozens of clean-energy sectors; some of those bets in its portfolio are bound to go bad…"

David Johnson's article continues to look at the investors in Solyndra. One of the accusations made by conservatives is that an Obama donor named George Kaiser is a major investor in Solyndra. In fact, the Kaiser Family Foundation is the investor, not George Kaiser. This is relevant because the foundation made its investment through the investment firm Argonaut, and because the Foundation is a philanthropic organization, no individual can profit from this investment….

On the other hand, the article raises a question about another major investor in Solyndra:

"The conservative Wal-Mart Walton Family, however, were private investors through their Madrone Capital, and at the time that the Bush administration started pushing the Solyndra loan were in a position to peronally profit from this investment. If any accusation of an expectation of personal enrichment obtained from political connections should be investigated, it is this one. Will the Republican House look into the connections between the Walton family and Bush administration officials, and the Bush administrations efforts to provide loans to Solyndra?"

Finally, regarding the "loss" to the US from the bankruptcy of Solyndra, the article notes that in essence the involvement of the government "was to help trigger the development of green-energy manufacturing in the United States, not to help individual companies." Profit for the government was not the purpose. In fact, Johnson sees the government's loan guarantee as a success rather than a loss. He writes:

"Even though Solyndra's investors lost out our country retains the trained skilled employees, the intellectual property, the innovators funded, the suppliers, and the factory. As components of a national effort to trigger a key strategic industry, those are all still there and in the US."

Originally posted by Blackmarketeer
Sorry OP not buying the right-wing media spin.

Dude... It hit all the news circuits.

Regardless about what political leanings they were, this story lit up the entire media circuit.

MSNBC, NBC, ABC, CBS, FOX, and CNN carried the story.

reply to post by aCurious1
It took the Dems that long to come up with an alternative version?

It's not even that good. Blame big oil?

And this suprises anyone how???

its all corrupt.....vote all incumbents out.

Originally posted by centurion1211
Solyndra was approved in a very fast and furious manner only a couple weeks after the Bush administration had said no.

edit on 9/14/2011 by centurion1211 because: (no reason given)

Wow...False on both counts. You know you can knock the POTUS without outright BSing?

Perhaps see the factual timeline? The loan took 3 years from start to finish and the Bush Administration did not say "No" they pushed hard for the loan.

January 2009: In an effort to show it has done something to support renewable energy, the Bush Administration tries to take Solyndra before a DOE credit review committee before President Obama is inaugurated. The committee, consisting of career civil servants with financial expertise, remands the loan back to DOE “without prejudice” because it wasn’t ready for conditional commitment.

March 2009: The same credit committee approves the strengthened loan application. The deal passes on to DOE’s credit review board. Career staff (not political appointees) within the DOE issue a conditional commitment setting out terms for a guarantee.

June 2009: As more silicon production facilities come online while demand for PV wavers due to the economic slowdown, silicon prices start to drop. Meanwhile, the Chinese begin rapidly scaling domestic manufacturing and set a path toward dramatic, unforeseen cost reductions in PV. Between June of 2009 and August of 2011, PV prices drop more than 50%.

September 2009: Solyndra raises an additional $219 million. Shortly after, the DOE closes a $535 million loan guarantee after six months of due diligence. This is the first loan guarantee issued under the 1703 program. From application to closing, the process took three years – not the 41 days that is sometimes reported. OMB did raise some concerns in August not about the loan itself but how the loan should be “scored.” OMB testified Wednesday that they were comfortable with the final scoring.

cleantechnica.com...

when people in power circles need to get paid off by other members, they make the transaction as legal as possible so the funds are secure.
Like taking a piece of land and selling it to another person for 50.000 dollars, if you owe some a half million dollars that piece of land will be worth around a half million dollars but you just let them have it for 50.000 so the transaction is legal and the transfer of wealth cannot be deemed illegal.

It seems that something similar was done here, a very large sum of money was intended for someone to break into smaller amounts to make payments for services rendered, the fact this was denied by the bush administration says none of their power cronies are involved and just as a poke in the eye to possibly a rival power elite, a denial will give them #s and giggles.

The fact this was revived and granted with the speed it was says that when obamas team took control the power circle jerk he is involved in needed this to happen very quickly, and it did.
Their will not be any investigation of any substance, maybe a cursory glance over the file by people who already know exactly what it is and why it was done, to ensure none of the right questions get asked, will be the best the american people can hope for.
The pigs are at the trough and feasting on your money, unless you guys start getting mad about it, you soon will have nothing left and only yourselves to blame, and this is the same story in the western "civilised" world.

ENOUGH!!! Let me be the first to say...

It is time for us/the common people to take to the streets of Washington and force this P.O.S out of office before he and his buddies commit ANOTHER criminal act and/or get more Americans killed (Fast & Furious).

If by some twist of fate keeps this bum in office, wait till the political Democratic party races/runs for any office.
They will be like "Obama Who?" "We don't and have never supported anything put forth by Obama". "We were deceived just like you" and so forth

Well folks.. you got what you wanted. Chicago Politics and Crime-as promised.

What I can't believe is that there are still ATSers that support this numb-nut. Stand up and show your pride folks.

What I really can't believe is that some of you still believe you got a better deal with Obama/Biden instead of McCain/Palin. Go ahead and keep telling yourself that-all the way up to the forthcoming impeachment or criminal trials

A serious investigation with Holder at the helm? Puhleeze. The only thing that guy is interested in is suppressing white peoples' right to vote without intimidation by the panthers and suing states for trying to do something about the out of control illegal immigration issue. Other than that, Eric is busy asleep at his desk dreaming of other ways to screw white people or doing nothing to help the country recover from historical wall street fraud.

Originally posted by beezzer
S&F
I honestly thought Fast & Furious would have been the downfall.
Now this?
It just confirms what those of us have been saying all along.

Obama is going from bad to worse.
Fast & Furious GunrunnerGate - SolyndraGate - what's next?
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House of Representatives Solyndra hearings are not going well for the Obama administration.
It looks like a clear case of - FRAUD -.

The question of the day ----- Solyndra ...crony capitalism or lemon socialism???

Originally posted by anon72
What I really can't believe is that some of you still believe you got a better deal with Obama/Biden instead of McCain/Palin. Go ahead and keep telling yourself that-all the way up to the forthcoming impeachment or criminal trials

Least of evils.

If McCain/Palin had won we would still be in a deep recession and occupying Libya, Egypt, Syria and Iran in addition to still having wars in Iraq and Affghanistan going full throttle.

Remember McCain singing "bomb..bomb...bomb, bomb iran" anyone?

The misery those two would have wreaked on this country would make today look like high times.

You Betcha!!

reply to post by Indigo5

we would still be in a deep recession and occupying Libya, Egypt, Syria and Iran in addition to still having wars in Iraq and Affghanistan going full throttle.

Easy to say but hard to back up. One signing a song in jest hardly equates to what Obama has done or is doing.

I guess us being invovled in Syria, Lybia, Somalia, Gaza, Iraq and Afganistan don't equate? Come on. Think about what you just posted. Seriously. So much for the Peace Prize for Bozo.

Psssst. In case you didn't know. We are in/or extremely close to a Double Dip Recession and on the brink of a Depression. What world are you living in?

Check out these stories out today:

Jobless Claims, Inflation Rise, Manufacturing Gets Weaker
www.cnbc.com...

Mortgage default warnings surged in August

Banks have stepped up their actions against homeowners who have fallen behind on their mortgage payments, setting the stage for a fresh wave of foreclosures.

finance.yahoo.com...

Bottom line...
Obama signed the bill. Regardless about what happened prior to its passing, Obama was the one who signed across the bill's bottom line. Even though he had been warned by all parties (Reps. & Dems.) involved, Obama ignored everyone as they told him to stop. As a result of not listening to those with experience, Obama blew $500 million of taxpayer's money on a 'known' bad investment.

Bush considered the proposal with certain cautionary stipulations, but they decided it was too much of a risk in the long run. They abandoned the deal.

Obama ignored officials and signed the bill.

Even though both parties got funding by the company, only one of them took the hook, line, and sinker.

Its that simple.

reply to post by aCurious1


I appreciate your post and your information. However, one thing has to be made clear. Bush's administration pulled the plug on the Solyndra loan for the very reasons that we have discussed in multiple threads. The loan was not viable and neither was the company. Furthermore, investors ignored Solyndra's attempt at an IPO for the same reasons.

Its all about the timeline which I will try to put together.... and the connections and personal visits made by Kaiser to the WH. ONe of the key focal points of this is which came first the loan or the investors. I get the feeling word got out about the guaranteed loan and investors such as Kaiser started plunking down money. Let's see how this plays out.

Once again, Bush's officials denied the loan and Obama picked it up and wiped it off and gave it the green light despite all of the advice and history that should have contradicted that decision.

Originally posted by Indigo5

Originally posted by centurion1211
Solyndra was approved in a very fast and furious manner only a couple weeks after the Bush administration had said no.

edit on 9/14/2011 by centurion1211 because: (no reason given)

Wow...False on both counts. You know you can knock the POTUS without outright BSing?

On Solyndra-gate, cherry pick the news all you want to try and salvage obama's reputation (yet again - getting to be a habit with you), but the facts are the facts.

Fact: The application was turned down under the Bush administration.

Fact: The application was approved under the obama administration - after multiple visits to the White House by a key Solyndra-gate investor who also was a big obama campaign donor.. Can you say QUID PRO QUO? Or do you like the sound of "political cronyism" better? "Government fraud" also works well here.

Fact: Multiple financial people that reviewed the business model said it wouldn't work. Because - and pay close attention here - you can't make a solar panel for $6/watt and sell it for $3/watt. Another financial analyst I saw on television news predicted after seeing the business model and books that Solyndra-gate would be out of cash by September 2011. Hello!!!! It's now September 2011 and Solyndra-gate just declared bankruptcy.

Some people will beat a dead horse, but we have something new here with you effectively trying to resuscitate a dead horse - the obama administration.

Charging! Clear!

Originally posted by Section31
Bottom line...
Obama signed the bill. Regardless about what happened prior to its passing, Obama was the one who signed across the bill's bottom line. Even though he had been warned by all parties (Reps. & Dems.) involved, Obama ignored everyone as they told him to stop. As a result of not listening to those with experience, Obama blew $500 million of taxpayer's money on a 'known' bad investment.

Bush considered the proposal with certain cautionary stipulations, but they decided it was too much of a risk in the long run. They abandoned the deal.

Obama ignored officials and signed the bill.

Even though both parties got funding by the company, only one of them took the hook, line, and sinker.

Its that simple.

edit on 9/15/2011 by Section31 because: (no reason given)

IMO, your post should have been the very last post of the thread.

It's all there.

An elementary school student could basically understand it.

Obama "supporters" yelling, "Obama signed it, but it's Bush's fault", is just plain ----

Originally posted by centurion1211

Originally posted by Indigo5

Originally posted by centurion1211
Solyndra was approved in a very fast and furious manner only a couple weeks after the Bush administration had said no.

edit on 9/14/2011 by centurion1211 because: (no reason given)

Wow...False on both counts. You know you can knock the POTUS without outright BSing?

On Solyndra-gate, cherry pick the news all you want to try and salvage obama's reputation (yet again - getting to be a habit with you), but the facts are the facts.

Fact: The application was turned down under the Bush administration.

Fact: The application was approved under the obama administration - after multiple visits to the White House by a key Solyndra-gate investor who also was a big obama campaign donor.. Can you say QUID PRO QUO? Or do you like the sound of "political cronyism" better? "Government fraud" also works well here.

Fact: Multiple financial people that reviewed the business model said it wouldn't work. Because - and pay close attention here - you can't make a solar panel for $6/watt and sell it for $3/watt. Another financial analyst I saw on television news predicted after seeing the business model and books that Solyndra-gate would be out of cash by September 2011. Hello!!!! It's now September 2011 and Solyndra-gate just declared bankruptcy.

Some people will beat a dead horse, but we have something new here with you effectively trying to resuscitate a dead horse - the obama administration.

Charging! Clear!

We need a special prosecutor. Where is Ken Starr???
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This has - FRAUD - written all over it.
The scandals are starting to pile up.

reply to post by aCurious1


Bush might have been corrupt on the Solyndra thing as well but.......

BUSH IS NOT THE PRESIDENT ANYMORE

So stop trying to divert blame. Bush is gone. Gone, gone, GONE.

It doesn't matter if Bush started the scheme going, the fact is Obama closed the deal, Obama is President, and Bush is GONE.

This image gives you an idea about what Solyndra was up against in regards to competition from the Chinese. This is not new information and just adds further to the notion that this deal was doomed from the start. How can any company successfully compete with China on its own? I am not advocating govt. support for this either maybe we just need tougher trade guidelines with China. Never happen though. The own the majority of our debt. So, we're screwed by the Chinese and the Nimrods in DC.

Here is a blogger trying to keep up with the play by play in these hearings. This is from yesterday
finance.fortune.cnn.com...