Originally posted by On the level
I am not even going to go into the well know mistreatment of the Palestinians or the current issues with Turkey but I will say this, if you where
denied basic amenities on your own land, if you where mistreated, beaten and had your homes destroyed what would you do.
I my opinion we all need to put pressure on our politicians to act against this oppressive and war mongering state, Israel will not be happy until it
leads the world into war. With the drums starting to beat from Turkey, diplomacy is needed and economic sanctions should be put in place, along with a
ban on arms sales, to show Nethanyahoo that we as a western people will no longer cow tow to their anti semite, zionistic bull#. We can see what they
are doing and how there are antagonising their neighbours. It needs to stop, at all costs. Rather Israel destroyed that the rest of us
Yeah, good point, because the "Palestineans" never do anything wrong. They wouldn't fire rockets, or have weird versions of Sesame Street that
encourage and glorify suicide bombings, or anything like that. I find it interesting that Israel is the one "antagonizing their neighbours". How,
exactly? Ah, right. By existing.
Fact is, there is wrongdoing on both sides. What you're presenting here is a one-sided whitewash that vindicates all "Palestinean" actions (let me
guess, they fire rockets because they're "oppressed" and "occupied"?) and vilifies Israel. This simplistic view fails to take so much into
Now, for my part...
I support Israel's right to the land currently given to "the Palestaineans". I do not believe that a "Palestinean people" exists, nor do I believe it
has ever existed. Those we call Palestineans are Jordanian. Nothing more, nothing less. They were refused right of return to Jordan itself, and
have remained in Israel. Does that give Israel the right to "occupy" that land? Yes. Yes it does. Does it give them the right to oppress the
Palestineans? No it doesn't. I love Biblical Israel. I support their right to the land of Israel, and support their right to exist. Does that mean
that the government and its actions are beyond reproach? No. Not so much, no.
...still, I don't see any other independent, democratic states around the world showing restraint amidst rocket fire from across a border... do
edit: it's a little tricky to live in peace with people who want to kill you. Point in case:
the Hamas Charter "calls for the eventual creation of an Islamic state in Palestine, in place of Israel and the Palestinian Territories, and the
obliteration or dissolution of Israel.
The PLO Charter declares the State of Israel "null and void" and calls for its destruction... stating that "Commando action constitutes the nucleus
of the Palestinian popular liberation war. This requires its escalation, comprehensiveness, and the mobilization of all the Palestinian popular and
educational efforts and their organization and involvement in the armed Palestinian revolution. It also requires the achieving of unity for the
national ('wanted) struggle among the different groupings of the Palestinian people, and between the Palestinian people and the Arab masses, so as to
secure the continuation of the revolution, its escalation, and victory."
how can you possibly negotiate peace with a people who only wish your destruction?
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