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911 The usual Suspects.....

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posted on Sep, 10 2011 @ 07:58 AM
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Now i have always been a strong believer that 9/11 was a crime ...yet the crime even though what we are told.... believe the crime has not really been solved.

So i put this challenge to ATS members......

I will put forward some suspects...and i would like the members to join the dots...come up with he links and connections of the suspects...profile them and come up with a series of things that join all these supects to the crime at hand...then also going through and eliminating some and narrowing the crime down to ones that seem to be the most likely culprits....

Remember this is just an exercise but i think the results might prove interesting.....

THE LIST (feel free to add to the list)

Isser Harel
Larry Silverstein
Frank Lowy
Bill Clinton
Hilary Clinton
Lewis M Eisenberg
Ronald Lauder
Jeremy Kroll
Jerome M. Hauer
Michael Chertoff
Oussama Ziade
Dov Zakheim
Paul Wolfowitz
Elliot Abrams
Donald Rumsfeld
Gary Bauer
George Weigel
Norman Podhoretz
Midge Decter
Vin Weber
William Bennett
Jeb Bush
Eliot A Cohen
Richard Perle
George bush jr
George Bush Sr

Now I feel these people had some foreknowledge or possible links to the actual crime...but i will state once again...this is just a challenge in crime solving....All suspects are innocent in every degree of the word...
Now just a hint......just type in the Name of any given indivual in google...with 911 after and just see where it takes you...I hope this will be an interesting journey for any and all those who choose to participate.....I am not wanting to dicuss 9/11 I am am just wanting to see what links present themselves.....as i have done this on my own in another thread...but i would like to see if others find anything new....Another hint i think is follow the money and the motives....what is to be gained and what could be the achievments of commiting such a crime against humanity.
lets work together on something constructive for 911 rather than fighting semantics on issues that become circular and achieve very little.




posted on Sep, 10 2011 @ 10:04 AM
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Great Post OP !




I would add Barbara Bodine, the Ambassador to Yemen (1997 - August 30 2001). As another piece of the puzzle.



When O'Neill briefly traveled back to New York for Thanksgiving, Bodine denied his re-entry visa, blocking O'Neill from returning to Yemen to continue the investigation on the USS Cole bombing. Frontline cited sources as saying that "O'Neill's removal from the scene in Yemen may have seriously limited the Cole investigation," and some have speculated that if Bodine had not blocked O'Neill's return, the September 11 plot might have been foiled



en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Sep, 10 2011 @ 10:49 AM
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Excellent idea, before we go on: Please add: George Tenet and Ali Mohamed



posted on Sep, 10 2011 @ 11:23 AM
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RUMSFELD: Attack imminent if Congress cuts defense...

09/10/2011

www.humanevents.com...


DOD Acquisition and Logistics Excellence Week Kickoff—Bureaucracy to Battlefield
Remarks as Delivered by Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld, The Pentagon , Monday, September 10, 2001
www.defense.gov...

"The topic today is an adversary that poses a threat, a serious threat, to the security of the United States of America" 10.9.01

"Just as we must transform America's military capability to meet changing threats"
10.9.01

"Some might ask, how in the world could the Secretary of Defense attack the Pentagon in front of its people? To them I reply, I have no desire to attack the Pentagon"
10.9.01

"we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions. We cannot share information from floor to floor in this building because it's stored on dozens of technological systems that are inaccessible or incompatible."
10.9.01

Remember what happened last time Mr Rumsfeld was hyping his propaganda?

I do

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posted on Sep, 10 2011 @ 11:32 AM
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Ok so lets try this....an ambassador stops John O'neil from entering yemen to continue his investigation.



9/11 Yemen Ambassador Barbara Bodine Blocked John O'Neill's USS Cole InvestigationIn 2001-2002, Barbara Bodine was US ambassador to Yemen. It is confirmed, that in 2001, she forbade former FBI Anti-Terror specialist John ONeill and his team of "so- called Rambos" (as the Yemeni authorities called them) from reentering Yemen to investigate on terror ties. In August 2001, O'Neill resigned in frustration and took up a new job as head of security at the World Trade Centre. He died in the September 11th attack. The first FBI agents enter Yemen two days after the bombing of the USS Cole in an attempt to discover who was responsible. However, the main part of the team initially gets stuck in Germany because they do not have permission to enter Yemen and they are then unable to accomplish much due to restrictions placed on them and tensions between lead investigator John O'Neill and US Ambassador to Yemen Barbara Bodine. All but about 50 investigators are forced to leave by the end of October. O'Neill's boss Barry Mawn visits to assess the situation. [Miller, Stone, and Mitchell, 2002, pp. 237; New Yorker, 1/14/2002; Sunday Times (London), 2/3/2002; New Yorker, 7/10/2006 ] Mawn will later comment, "It became clear [Bodine] simply hated his guts." After a ten day investigation, he concludes O'Neill is doing a fine job, tells Bodine that she is O'Neill's "only detractor," and refuses her request to recall him. [Wright, 2006, pp. 32] But O'Neill and much of his team are pressured to leave by late November and Bodine will not give him permission to return any time


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so we now ask who is john O'neil....shall we try...


Bodine was later quoted as saying;

"Too much is being made of John O'Neill's being in Yemen or not," "John O'Neill did not discover Al Qaeda. He did not discover Osama bin Laden. So the idea that John or his people or the F.B.I. were somehow barred from doing their job is insulting to the U.S. government, which was working on Al Qaeda before John ever showed up. This is all my embassy did for ten months. The fact that not every single thing John O'Neill asked for was appropriate or possible does not mean that we did not support the investigation."



Out of the 2,780 victims of the WTC only 12 bodies were found physically intact, John O'Neil was one of those rare 12 bodies that were identifiable by sight. John's body was found at the bottom of a stairwell in the south tower on Sept 22nd where he had supposedly lain for 11 days, he was formally identified by Jerome Hauer.


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so we see something going on here do we not....but i think we need more to go on don't but definately a good trail that needs to be followed.

but as you see it imediately les to one Jerome Hauer which is a name in the list above.

now this is from typing in barbara Bodine 911 interesting stuff.



posted on Sep, 10 2011 @ 11:43 AM
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a quicky on George Tenet...lets have a look at this man...between the Barbara Bodine venture and Tenet it does seem a little something is going on.


Former White House director for counterterrorism Richard Clarke has accused former CIA Director George Tenet of denying him and others access to intelligence that could have thwarted the attack on the Pentagon on 9/11. One would think that this would be a front page story, but of course for the most part it is not.

If Tenet did do this then it was at least gross dereliction of duty claims Ray McGovern a former CIA analyst.In an interview aired on Aug. 11 on a local PBS affiliate in Colorado, Clarke charges that Tenet and two other senior CIA officials, Cofer Black and Richard Blee, deliberately withheld information about two of the hijackers of American Airlines Flight 77 - al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar. The two had entered the United States more than a year before the 9/11 attacks.

Witholding intelligence on 2 of the 9/11 hijackers is very surprising. Richard Clarke concluded that he should have received information from CIA about al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar, "unless somebody intervened to stop the normal automatic distribution". Given that the two turned out to be part of the 9/11 terror team such an act verges on being criminal.


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thank you for your inputs....lets get a collection of all this and then as it progresses lets see if we can all connect the dots......if people believe it was a crime...then we need to solve the crime....if it was internal or if it was a bunch of wacko hijackers(which i don't believe) there would be higher ups behind the game.



posted on Sep, 10 2011 @ 11:45 AM
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Thank you pockets...excellent stuff and you have the right Idea along with others...This is all to connected....I thought i would try this approach and see if others could be enticed to do some searching....job well done.


Former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld warned that it will only be a matter of time before America endures another terrorist attack if Congress ends up blaming the defense budget for this country’s red ink woes. “The Department of Defense is not what’s causing the debt and the deficit. It’s the entitlement programs,” he told HUMAN EVENTS in an exclusive interview. “If we make that mistake, we’re doomed to suffer another attack of some kind, and our intelligence will be less strong and less effective.”


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theese words do not bode well for the future now do they....a premonition yet again.

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posted on Sep, 10 2011 @ 11:53 AM
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Anyone can commit a crime - it is getting away with it that marks the professional.



Getting away with it in this case required pre and post brainwashing of the American public.

To that end you might say that Rabbi Dov Zakheim and Philip Zelikow are the two bookends of the crime of 9/11.

Well - I should say the modern "tip" of the crime of 9/11.

By "tip" I mean tip of the iceberg because 9/11 is just a small part of the multi-decade Zionist crime against the USA and the whole world.

Each of you can go back to the beginning of Zionism in the 1800's and investigate the start of the crime but if you just look into the philosophy and actions of Rabbi Dov Zakheim and Philip Zelikow you will be convinced that the crime of 9/11 was yet another Zionist crime against Americans in the tradition of the Lavon Affair and the USS Liberty attack.

The connection between the people you listed is of course the ideology of hate we know as Zionism.

You could also add these brainwash experts to the list...

Scooter Libby
Judith Miller
William Safire
Donald Kagan
Robert Kagan
Frederick Kagan
Irving Kristol
William Kristol (chief bastard and bottle washer)
Joshua Bolten
Kevin Pollak
Frank Gaffney
David Wurmser
Meyrav Wurmser
Daniel Pipes
David Horowitz
Ari Fleischer
David Brooks
David Frum
Dan Senor
Morton Zuckerman
Charles Krauthammer
Mona Charen
Norman Podhoretz
Joseph Lieberman
Arlen Specter
Wolf Blitzer
Thomas Friedman

Hall of Fame Members
Benjamin Netanyhu
Henry Kissinger
Leo Strauss
Chaim Weizmann
Bernard Baruch
General Lyman Lemnitzer (Operation Northwoods)
Samuel Untermyer
Louis D. Brandeis
Eugene Rostow
Walt Rostow
Madeleine Albright
Jonathan Pollard
Jack Ruby (Jacob Rubenstein) Yes - that Jack Ruby
Meyer Lansky
Arnold Rothstein



posted on Sep, 10 2011 @ 12:14 PM
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excellently put....and i have to agree with you the getting away with it and continuously getting away with it is the real crime.....and your additional list is great....i will personally go looking through your additions.

also i know that the people from the sidelines will come in screaming anti semitic...but the term here used was purely ZIONISTS......Zionism is not Jewish....it is a political movement.....it has people of all faiths in amongst the umbrella...and it is used against the people by being able to say that when people speak out against the movement we are being Anti semitic.....

I myself will not be cow tied into following that line of reasoning as Most people know the difference....

Antisemitism (also spelled anti-semitism or anti-Semitism) is suspicion of, hatred toward, or discrimination against Jews for reasons connected to their Jewish heritage. According to a 2005 U.S. governmental report, antisemitism is "hatred toward Jews—individually and as a group

Also people say Israel is jewish...well it Was formed by the Zionist politcal Agenda...and a great Many Ortodox Jews do not agree that the so called homeland was a requirement for the Jewish people.....The State of Israel is the SOR(State Of Rothschilds).

all viewpoints are welcomed in this thread....so please lets look at all avenues shall we......

A Crime was commited and the same people whom committed this crime disposed of all the evidence very Quickly.....so all we have is the Suspects.....so lets not get to distracted and focus upon the suspects.



posted on Sep, 10 2011 @ 12:26 PM
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Soi i now pulled off from the additions...

Henry Kissinger


Other involvements from the past:

-regular guest at the Bilderberg(->) Meetings -put forth the idea of a "winnable" nuclear war under Nixon and set in gear the 1969-1973 carpet-bombing of Cambodia, killing 750.000 Cambodians. -involved in Project Paperclip in World War 2 in the US Counter intelligence Corps. This was about smuggling Nazi scientists and engineers to the West (to work on missiles, rockets and other high tech projects) -gave the go-ahead for the Indonesian invasion of East Timor in 1975. Over 200,000 people were killed as a result. -responsible for souring relations between Turkey, Greece and Cyprus -former member of Banco Nazionale del Lavro, when the same bank expedited loans to Saddam Hussein. -worked on various boards like of Coca Cola, ABC, CBS, ITT and one of his business asociates was Japanese Fascist Ryoichi Sasakawa. -During the Nixon Administration in the US, when Dr.Henry Kissinger was the National Security Adviser (NSC), the intelligence community of the US and the ISI worked in tandem in guiding and assisting the so-called Khalistan movement in the Punjab -Kissinger gave full backing and military assistance to the Pinochet coup in Chile, later sanctioning the murder of Orlando Letelier in Washington in 1976. -Kissinger backed the Pakistani government in opposing Bangladeshi indpendence -Henry Kissinger was political consultant of UNOCAL, who was working on a pipeline in Afghanistan in 1997/8 Source: www.saag.org...


Now like i say...this is just information gathering and trying to focus it...but interestingly enough....one name keeps coming up as associates to others in here...so are we already getting to a prime suspect.


On Henry Kissinger: THE MUSH-KANGER CONNECTION "Because Henry Kissinger is a liar and a criminal, he will criminally lie
about the 9-11 attacks to hide the secret identities of real hijackers and to cover up the high crimes committed by unknown terrorists on 11 September 2001.

Henry Kissinger is known as Henry Kanger in South Asia. Ask anyone from Pakistan, India, or Bangladesh, who speaks the Punjabi
or Urdu language, to tell you what 'Kanger' means in Punjabi or Urdu. In September 2000 at The Roosevelt Hotel in New York City,
Kissinger held a top secret meeting with 'Pakistani' General Pervez Musharraf, a corrupt tyrant, military dictator and human rights
abuser illegally imposed on the 150 millionstrong Pakistani nation by the Clinton-Bush regimes.


SOURCE

now we will look at some of the names shortly in a really cool tool....

Now again in the article please read....as you will see a name synomonous



posted on Sep, 10 2011 @ 12:58 PM
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Whatever happened that day, it woke me up

Lines Sorry



posted on Sep, 10 2011 @ 01:03 PM
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Well It woke up a great many people i Believe...and It showed how little control we the people have in anything when it comes to TPTB.

The MSM manipulation machine and how the world is nothing but a chess board and we the Slaves are the suffering few...But I hope that it creates a movement to show that people are all the same through out the world and we basically are good within.....and the perpetrators of Evil shall fall a mighty fall....Exposing them to the Masses is what is needed.



posted on Sep, 10 2011 @ 01:32 PM
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interesting connections just reading through a bit on William Kristol.....founder of PNAC....

PNAC keeps coming up over and over.....


A bit of background: In 1994, Bill Kristol and John Podhoretz, with financing from Rupert Murdoch, established the Weekly Standard magazine. In 1997, along with Robert Kagan, Kristol founded the Project for a New American Century, a neoconservative movement that openly advocated military action in Iraq to "protect our vital interests in the Gulf" as early as 1998. There is no doubt that the man, the magazine, and PNAC are inexorably intertwined.


SOURCE

It is a strange thing that all these associations don't get looked into...but of course they don't....they all lead to an insider plot of a great far reaching arms of deciet and deception.....grandstanding full of lies and Mass media manipulation.



posted on Sep, 10 2011 @ 01:41 PM
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Gulliani
Warren Buffet
Rupert Murdoch
Jay Rockefeller


Theres some I would list but you wouldn't believe me even more so.



posted on Sep, 10 2011 @ 01:47 PM
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Yes - here is another list of people who help us understand.

Avi Shlaim (The Iron Wall Israel and the Arab World since 1948)
Israel Shahak
Gilad Atzmon
Michael Neumann (The Case Agianst Israel)
Dovid Weiss (Neturei Karta)
Shlomo Sand (The Invention of the Jewish People)
Ilan Pappe (The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine)
Allegra Pacheco
Jeff Halper
Joel Kovel
Norman Finkelstein
Lenni Brenner
Benjamin H. Freedman
Sir Gerald Kaufman
Edwin Montagu (Balfour Declaration)
Yitzhak Epstein (1907 A Hidden Question)



posted on Sep, 10 2011 @ 02:07 PM
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Is this some kind of Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon game--in which case no one has reached Kevin Bacon yet--or are we just making lists of people we don't like? If it's the former,

Bill Clinton's vice president was Al Gore,
Al Gore appeared in Futurama with Nichelle Nichols,
Nichelle Nichols was in Heroes with Greg Grunberg,
Greg Grunberg was in Hollow Man with Kevin Bacon.

I cheated. I used IMDB. If it's the latter, if we're making lists of people we don't like,

Usama Bin Laden
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed
Khalid Al-Midhar
Majed Moqed
Nawaq Alhamzi
Salem Alhamzi
Hani Hanjour
Satam Al Suqami
Waleed M. Alshehri
Wail Alshehri
Mohamed Atta
Abdulaziz Alomari
Marwan Al-Shehhi
Fayez Ahmed
Ahmed Alghamdi
Hamza Alghamdi
Mohald Alshehri
Saeed Alghamdi
Ahmed Alhaznawi
Ahmed Alnami
Ziad Jarrahi



posted on Sep, 10 2011 @ 02:12 PM
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I do think that William Kristol is one of the central perpetrators.

Read about Bronfman, Arnold Rothstein and Meyer Lansky and how American organized crime was so linked to the creation of Israel.



posted on Sep, 10 2011 @ 02:20 PM
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I would believe anything at this point in time...as i say all suspects are just that...suspects.....the four names you put forwrd are indeed compelling and are worthy of looking at....lets just do one shall we...

Jay Rockefeller



but is this not the same man who wants the internet controlled...and also the same man bringing in new legislation on phone hacking.....yet is he going after rupert Murdoch himself...or after people looking into things....WHAT?

more controls.......hmmmm....something smells a bit funny.....does Jay have ties with murdoch
this is an interesting conundrum to me.....two powerful individuals....with seemingly little connection....
could you help with the connection here.....no political ties...not corporate ties....no family ties...least of which i can find.....this is strange in and amongst itself.


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posted on Sep, 10 2011 @ 02:24 PM
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With regard to the long list of Muslim names.

Yes indeed - the Zionists / Mossad has a well documented history of using the passports of others to carry out crimes.

Thanks for being so kind as the remind us of that.

Have to add that they have subverted a more than a few Muslims in the last 100 years of tyranny as well.

No one should bash Israel for no reason.



That is why I feel compelled to reveal the thousands of reasons why Israel should be bashed.



posted on Sep, 10 2011 @ 02:32 PM
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well it could almost be a six degree of separation...but it more about the interconectedness of the individuals involved...but it will show one name keeps popping up...which becomes is it just coincedence or a central theme.

this is not just about relationships...it is about what their involment was....as in a crime....if we are all six degrees from said individual does that make us all involved in the crime....no it doesnn't...but it does lead down a trail.

yes this is a great site for showing connections.....

people and corporate mapper

this is just a challenge to show relationships of people....the specualtion has been beaten to death...and the evidence of the day destroyed....I think we need to take another approach is all.

this is not a list of people i don't like...it is not about like or dislike...it is about connections to a crime.....heck my list of names of people i don't like would be ZERO.

I am one of those foolish people who actually think there is good in everyone of us.....I think enviroments breed hate towards others....but unfortuantely there are people behind the crime....so lets find them and bring them into the light where they might one day be held accountable for their actions.
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