I hate all new music. as far as rap goes, my cut-off point is anything post-2000. dropping an album based around your earnings and spending of said earnings is a effing joke. and if you got something to say about it, watch out!! you might be a HATER!!!!! oh noes!!

seriously, in the future when people look back, how much will songs about driving expensive cars with tricked out rims and buying the priciest bottles at the club hold up artistically speaking?

Like in all genres of music there is good and bad. It's seriously unfair to generalise and say all rap music is a joke. People have been watching too much MTV I reckon because that's where all the crap rap is played. I'd like too see the title of the thread changed to ''Commercial Rap music is an absolute joke''

Originally posted by technologicalsingularity

i totally agree, this is because most youth and 40 year olds that think their 16 and share their wardrobe with their sons have an attention span of 8 bars, to those rappers and their fans out there, translation:-

60bpm "must be a ballad or these drugs are giving me palpitations"
100bpm this is about 20 seconds
140bpm about 10 seconds "enough time for you to think, i like this song"
160bpm "too drugged to care"
rinse and repeat "otherwise ya might skip the track"

Even though i do music for a living, and i do go "fast"...what you're saying is true. It is so so so difficult to find any new original music out there. I have been doing this for 21 years now, i live music, i get paid for it, and it sucks most of times.

I'll never do rap/hip hop 'cause there IS nothing original out there. The sad fact is that our kids are lost innit!

I can't stand rap. Since we're ranting, here's a quick list of reasons why:

1. The bass. I don't know if I'll ever get people fixation with bass. There is an entire spectrum of sound to enjoy. To basically worship the bass and ignore the treble doesn't make any sense to me.

2. Emphasis of lyrics over music. I prefer it the other way around; music is more important to me than words.

3. The poor quality of lyrics. Considering the afore-mentioned emphasis on the lyrics, it's ironic that they would be so bad. I mean this both grammatically and poetically.

4. Besides the poor quality of the lyrics, the actual subject matter is... not something that I want to listen to. People bragging about qualities that I don't respect in the first place? No thanks.

5. The "sampling" of songs that I grew up with. I know it's just my nostalgia talking, but it's beyond irritating to hear a song that I loved get mutilated...the horror of witnessing a 5-second snippet of a childhood song get ripped out, chopped up, and looped over and over, all while some narcissist goes on about a party or some girl shaking her ass or something... it's almost heart-breaking, honestly. You kids think I'm being a drama queen? Give it another 20 years and you'll see exactly what I mean.

Also, it's really NOT that difficult to come up with original music, especially the simple loops that rap songs use. Ask any musician.

6. Emphasis of a beat at the expense of a good melody. Between this and number 1, the actual MUSIC of a rap song often seems like an afterthought. Sometimes it even seems like they even forget to put music in most of the song, like with Black-Eyed Peas "boom boom pow".

7. The sound of the rapping itself is annoying to me; I'd much rather hear singing.

8. It's everywhere. Every other song has to "feature" some rapper nowadays. To give you an idea of how obnoxious this is, imagine every other song featuring some death metal vocalist. Would you like to hear cookie monster death growls on the radio all the time? That's how it feels for someone who dislikes rap.


So as you can see, it's really not likable to me on ANY level.

HOWEVER, that said... rap doesn't suck. I used to say that in high school, along with my "rocker" and "stoner" friends. But I don't anymore, because it's not true. The truth is that I just don't like it, and the reasons why are my personal preferences. To say otherwise is to state my opinion as fact, and that is something that I'm trying to grow out of..

"Excluding people like J5, dead prez, de la soul etc " what a # rant next time when you generalize a whole genre don't add stuff like excluding. Basically you are complaining about mainstream # tracks every genre has this problem, not just hip hop/rap. Although hip hop culture has been declining since the 90's, rap isn't gonna change