I am not going to disagree with you although I do. I want to try to refocus the debate though because all of this talk on taxes is a diversion, in my
The idea that lowering taxes increases the output and size of the economy I don't think anyone can argue with. The money gets used in the market,
whether by a rich CEO or by the corporation itself.
The idea that increasing taxes is equitable and fair I disagree with because how can anyone have a conversation about raising taxes without discussing
the purpose of the taxes... but we do it all the time.
What do you want the additional federal revenue to be spent on?
Do you want it used to invade Syria or Iran? Planting seeds of internal-conflict in stable nations? Researching the speed of locusts on
treadmills? Feeding billionaires at luxurious private parties?
Why does the federal government need the money at all? In the economic theory we are using taxes are a form of a money-sink [electronics-term]. It
is a means of removing the money from circulation to prevent run-away monetary inflation.
That may seem incorrect to state in relation to taxes but we've spent $16,500,000,000,000 more than we've taken in so clearly the level of
corporate or private taxation is not important under current economic theory.
That number is ridiculous but is becoming normal. Do you know what
I could do 0.000000606% (or $1,000,000) of that?
Whether you raise it or lower it appears to have no impact on the actual spending/output of the government. So - back to my point - the talk of taxes
seems meaningless when there is a much bigger problem that needs to be addressed.
Why are taxes collected at all if its not connected to federal services and spending?
I think if people had an itemized list of what their taxes were used for and understand that right now their money is being taxed or taken arbitrarily
then there would be a revolution.
The fact is that you, as what might be called a liberal, are being told that corporations need to give more, the poor need to give less, and that this
represents an inequality causing suffering. A conservative is being told that the corporations create jobs and produce goods and services so the less
their taxes the more they can employee and produce and that the inequality won't exist once that happens.
The truth is - its an interesting side show that divides and conquers and whether they go up or down is inconsequential to what will happen in the
Federal government. It only helps support the illusion and stave off the revolution.
The other point I would answer before whether taxes go up or down is why do we as supposedly compassionate people support slave-wage labor overseas?
Why do we buy iPads, Nike shoes, and millions of other products produced by people earning less than $0.80 a day and that often commit suicide to
escape their fate? Why do we support that at the expense of our own productivity, self-sufficiency, and benefit?
The compassionate conservatives and bleeding heart liberals seem to all be hypocrites on this subject with little understanding of what happens once
the check has cleared in to the "US Treasury".
edit on 8/31/2011 by ararisq because: (no reason given)