April 8th, 2011 Antigua Guatemala, Guatemala To my brothers and sisters around the world: In the name of the Heart of the Heavens and the Heart of the Earth, greetings from Guatemala and the National Council of Elders Mayas, Xinca and Garifuna. I, Wakatel Utiw, “Wandering Wolf,” Cirilo Perez Oxlaj, humbly offer this message to you. I speak now of what we see happening in the world today. According to the Maya Calendars we are living in the time of the 13 Baktun and 13 Ajau. This is a time that comes accompanied with great pain. We are seeing a series of events approaching us as never seen before, these events come charged with tremendous sufferings and pain. They will happen in different places. They will touch us equally, men and women, old and young, indigenous or non-indigenous. All this is due to the contamination. The atmosphere has lost its control. We the Maya see it with much sadness that we will see hunger and drought. Plagues will invade the fields and affect the agriculture; new illnesses will appear and will be difficult to cure. The sun rays are getting stronger and stronger as time goes by. Our recommendation to avoid more suffering is this: No more nuclear testing, no more wars, no more mining and other explorations, no more use of chemicals. This is the only way the human race, the animals and the ancient trees could survive and see the new Sun*. If we do not change, few will be the ones to survive and see the arrival of the 6th Sun. Let’s reconcile with our Creator and our Mother Earth, each one in our own way. For us the Maya will be with our Sacred Fire. Respectfully, Wandering Wolf *Note: RE: “Sun.” Contrary to popular belief the living elders of the Maya do not agree that December 21, 2012 is the end of their calendar. A new “Sun” represents the beginning of a new Long Count cycle in the calendar system of approximately 5,200 years, which they say may not happen for many years.
Originally posted by Logman
No-one has explained why the eighth sign came before the seventh sign. Convenient? If it was real surely they would have kept it in chronological order?
That Hopi prophecy traces back no longer than 40-50 years. All the signs were made up to fit global events. Don't believe me? Prove to yourself where this prophecy came from and how old it is.
Just more End Is Nigh nonsense.edit on 30-8-2011 by Logman because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Jazzyguy
Who? Who is according to the Hopi, possessed the first light of wisdom?
C 2010 X1 Elenin 6x5 minsiso 400 uvirmod 350d 10inch 16deg filtered
Hopi spiritual leaders had an ancient prophecy that some day world leaders would gather in a Great House of Mica with rules and regulations to solve the world problems without war. I am amazed to see the prophecy has come true and you are here today! But only a handful of United Nations Delegates are present to hear the Motee Sinom (Hopi for First People) from around the world who spoke here today.
Mr. Thomas Banyacya, Hopi spiritual delegate, 1992
Originally posted by SuperTripps
reply to post by Kokatsi
does anyone know WHEN the hopi prophecy rock was carved?
there is a nazi (sun) and Celtic ( templar cross) on the rock..this is eerie
and how long these oral stories are around