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DOJ Raids Gibson Guitars Looking for Illegal Wood

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posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 09:37 AM
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looks to me like we could do without the DOJ if that is all they have to do. Think of the tax money we could save.




posted on Aug, 28 2011 @ 10:14 PM
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I'm a journeyman luthier and have worked for a major guitar manufacturer as a builder in a previous career

I don't have a ton to add to this thread but I do know that we bought our 'exotic' woods like brazillian rose wood from customs and the DOJ - which had been confiscated. Although I don't disagree with any of this, I just wanted to bring up the potential for some revenue opportunities by some of these departments.

Just to clarify again, I don't disagree with this at all and really do worry about the use of wood in this age.
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posted on Aug, 29 2011 @ 09:29 PM
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Internet and power is back on finally. Good riddance Irene.
Wow this thread got a lot more responses then I thought it would. I'm glad everyone can see the bigger implications with this one. I have to thank everyone who took the time to respond and especially those who contributed to this thread with much more info than me.

MBUk3D - N3k9NI - HappilyEverAfter - DexterRiley - 46ACE.
Thank you guys for doing the legwork for me- I really appreciate it.



posted on Aug, 29 2011 @ 10:25 PM
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Its just like Atlas Shrugged more and more everyday.At some point true justice must prevail.The d o j sucks and has no business messing with Gibson .I am so mad words cant describe the INJUSTICE Where is the free market and free trade our forefathers DIED FOR BACK OFF you socialist ahole looters



posted on Aug, 29 2011 @ 11:05 PM
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Originally posted by rktspc
I'm a journeyman luthier and have worked for a major guitar manufacturer as a builder in a previous career

I don't have a ton to add to this thread but I do know that we bought our 'exotic' woods like brazillian rose wood from customs and the DOJ - which had been confiscated. Although I don't disagree with any of this, I just wanted to bring up the potential for some revenue opportunities by some of these departments.

Just to clarify again, I don't disagree with this at all and really do worry about the use of wood in this age.
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Just to clarify its OK for you to buy wood that was stolen by the Government from Gibson ?



posted on Aug, 30 2011 @ 12:50 PM
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Very interesting. I haven't heard of this in the UK, just another notch in the bedpost.



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 08:17 PM
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Obama must own a Fender.



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 08:26 PM
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I watched a few interviews, and read a few articles on this.

It's pretty pathetic. What's sad, is that Gibson's CEO made a point about being one of the few remaining companies that hires, manufactures, produces and sells their products within the United States. He's not kidding either, they are one of few, and it's not joke.

All of this little crap every single day just pushes me away from all things "state" and all things "authority". Really, it's like I wouldn't care if federal buildings were burned to the ground tomorrow. I'd only say, "Really, well I'm surprised it didn't happen sooner." I'm 26 years old, I can only imagine the mindset of the younger generations just below me, growing up in this utter insanity. I'm indifferent to what happens to the federal government or federal employees, at this point. How do you think younger generations are going to feel? Growing up in a world where the Patriot Act always existed.

It won't be pretty, that's for sure. All I can say is, you reap what you sow, and you Do get what's coming to you in this world, sooner or later, but everyone suffers with it.. both sides. Which is why it behooves the federal government to smarten the F up.
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posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 08:31 PM
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Originally posted by Human0815
When i buy a Brand guitar like a Gibson or Fender
i await Quality, Resource Management is a part of Quality.

The use of illegal Wood is against my ethical Value
because i hate Deforestation which is walking Hand in Hand with Corruption!

It is good to know that Gibson is using such Business Practices,
i will not buy such a bad Karma Product


I'd like to see the evidence stating Gibson is using "bad karma" wood for it's products.

But anyway.. oh Hi There, I can't help but notice you're typing on a computer. You should Google "foxconn suicides". It will give you some insight on real atrocities by corporations pushing it to the limit. Now thats a "real" problem, that is something quantifiable. It makes me want to vomit, and I feel ashamed to use electronics. This Gibson 'problem' is ridiculous, really obscure, really pushing it, really grasping for straws.



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 11:15 PM
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The joke is a friend at one time imported teak for decks on sailboats.

He got it through customs because he was using it as crate material to crate up cheap rattan furniture.

It would go through customs every time and he would get a call to come down and pick up his imports.

He would find all the crates opened and the rattan furniture carefully stacked and a big pile of crate wood that customs told him that he must also haul off. customs knew that there was no way he could ever make any money selling the cheap rattan furniture and was intent on finding if he was smuggling something like drugs ECT ECT.

He would break even on the rattan furniture. But the teak wood was pure profit all he had to do was run the ruff cut teak through a planer and clean it up so that it looked like teak.



posted on Sep, 3 2011 @ 04:58 PM
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www.kmjnow.com...

a local interview with the CEO of Gibson, Henry Juszkiewicz.
interesting point to this interview, Gibson was told (in Writing) that their troubles would go away, IF they just used Madagascar labor instead of American Labor.



posted on Sep, 3 2011 @ 05:55 PM
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This is a definite abuse of government power. Who ever is ordering these raids needs to be fired, and investigated. I have to wonder how low down in the system this decision is made.

How long has this stuff been going on? From what other posters are saying, this has been going on for a while now, so not something that can be blamed on Obama.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 11:57 PM
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Originally posted by Skate
LMFAO WOW, the DOJ over reacting about Wood....Coool...I see that this is what we should be worrying about the most in today's world...


Yeah, You got that right. Only your sarcastic comment ruined it for you. Of course we should be concerned about something like this my friend. If you don't stand up for the little things now, then don't cry about it when the rug is yanked individually from under ALL of our feet. Try thinking for yourself for just one minute.

Some of you people really need to start waking up. Yeah sure you can sit on the sidelines but sooner or later, what these lying bottomfeeding carpetbagging political low life hacks and what they have done and are continuing to do will surely even effect your robot slave, yes men lives. I guess it will take it effecting your own family until you braindead sheoplized android, nay sayers will wake up. Get off your knees you weaklings. You better wake up and unite with your fellow Man. Otherwise, you will be eradicated by those you defend. Foolish mortals. ~SheopleNation
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