Making a Killing:The Untold Story of Psychotropic Druggin

Hello everyone,
Has anyone of you been ever using antidepressants? Your family members? Has anyone of you had horrible experiences while using it?
Share your stories with me.
peace and love to all
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reply to post by Ariele


Doctors put my Mother on Barbiturates back in the early sixties after my brother died. (Before I was born) The most my family will tell me is that she suffered from depression. I will look into her medical records after my Dad passes as I don't want to reopen old wounds.

Long story short...she took a pill one night, washed it down with some booze, lit a smoke and ended up torching the house, killing her and almost me and my sisters. I was eight months old at the time and if it wasn't for a firefighter neighbor, I too would have perished.

I rarely take prescription drugs, even after surgery. I may have been to young to remember, but it was a valuable lesson learned.

I have always thought that much of the world is overly medicated. I believe that some need it, but most don't. They just need to learn how to cope with life, which can be unfair and cruel, but also quite the adventure as well.

Do not trust the medical profession!!.
Stay well away from All medications, if at all possible.
Heal Yourself! Trust Yourself!

reply to post by TDawgRex


Thank You for sharing.
I had a friend, 4 years ago. She was diagnosed with 'chemical imbalance', and the doctor prescribed her some antidepressants. She took that for aprox. two weeks until she killed herself. She was was only 30 years old, and was not suicidal. I think it's those pills that made her to do that. No one can prove, but after watching peoples confessions about this, I am 100% sure that the antidepressants are dangerous

Originally posted by Ariele
reply to post by TDawgRex

 

Thank You for sharing.
I had a friend, 4 years ago. She was diagnosed with 'chemical imbalance', and the doctor prescribed her some antidepressants. She took that for aprox. two weeks until she killed herself. She was was only 30 years old, and was not suicidal. I think it's those pills that made her to do that. No one can prove, but after watching peoples confessions about this, I am 100% sure that the antidepressants are dangerous.

Greetings:

We agree.

We have had many friends and relatives though the years that have had 'strange' experiences with antidepressants.

One of the weirder ones was a fellow firefighter who went 'without' after he ran out of the pills while cutting containment lines in Montana, and he freaked out and said someone was out to kill him and he hid in his tent until the medics and security removed him to a 'secure facility' in Bozeman.

Up until the moment he ran out of his meds, he was 'normal.'

Personally, we do not imbibe of any prescription drug and think that 'chemical imbalances' are invented by the quacks who are in on the scam.

Good luck on your quest and s & f.

In Peace, Love & Light

tfw

[Edit] Felt uncomforatble for being so open.

reply to post by skitzspiricy


Yeah that's the major problem - people just blindly trust in doctors, forgetting that they don't know everything either.
Have you tried the meditation? It helped me to get rid of chronic asthma attacks. i know it is not same, but my asthma attacks were emotionally based. so it might would help you too.. just a thought

peace and love

I tried a couple of antidepressants. One gave me an alergic reaction, and wellbutrin seemed to nearly kill me.

What these doctors are doing is highly unethical.

Each individuals neurochemistry and neurobiology is unique to their selves.

Giving people a one size fits all drug is mindless.

Heads need to be rolling, and soon!

reply to post by Ariele
[mo very good post,there is loads of info on line exposing this scam.unfortunately the drug pedlars are still running at large and makes it hard to not know some one on some kind of drug.people are so easy convinced into believing this crap.we honestly have been betrayed.

Originally posted by Ariele
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We used to have a forum where conversations about drugs/alcohol were tolerated. Unfortunately many of the members couldnt be mature enough to have conversations that were meaningful nd insightful. Instead they quickly devolved into stories about how one night this guys got so baked he couldnt remember anything and what kind of drug is the recreational drug of choice, etc etc.

Since that time ATS has had a no tolerance policy when it comes to drug/alcohol threads. Just yesterday I was watching a thread that got deleted regarding te legality of alcohol, but also the OP kept getting tagged n his replies by the TnC police.

The stupid crap is the best part about drug stories. I mean, it's terrible if someone gets hurt but if you can let somebody turn around at look back on something bad that they can't change and have a laugh about it, how is that bad?

I know how they see that as bad. It's from concern about the sites reputation. They want the site to be taken seriously. How many members is enough to be taken seriously? I don't know, but they clearly do not want some things blurred in with other themes. Keeping up appearances in a place full of people who want the truth cold and hard. Interesting.

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..interesting thread. I have a whole slew of experiences but what I wanted to add for now is it's not just the patient believing in what the medical profession says it's all the people around the patient (family & friends) who add to the pressure by saying "well listen to the doc, if he / she said it, it must be true".
.. long story short, after a severe spine injury a team of so called top neurological specialists put a narcotic pump in my gut filled with morphine and 2 other drugs. it sure killed the pain but I kept saying; "I'm not me". I felt like my personality was plucked from me. very hard to explain but it was certainly the oddest feeling I ever had. and what did these docs do to help? they loaded me up with anti-depressants on top of the pump drugs. what a recipe to crash & burn. and after 18 mos. I did eventually. and then fortunately I met a doc who "saw something in my eyes" (swear to God, his words not mine). he kept me in the hospital and detoxed my system of literally everything. amazingly, most of the pain is gone and I'm once again me (my inner prick is back so I know my personality survived -- just kidding bout the inner prick I think). now if those original docs would have just listened to me things could have been a whole lot different. for me it was time lost but a lesson learned. be your own advocate and make sure the peole around you have the same faith in you you have in yourself. just because some doc has some degree doesnt mean he knows it all.

reply to post by LooksLikeWeMadeIt


i am happy that someone came along your way and saved you. I hope many people will read your reply, because it would save many lives

I will share my experience with antidepressants.
WARNING: WALL OF TEXT

After my second motor vehicle accident I experienced PTSD (not until a year after though... weird!) and chronic pain as a whiplash injury resulted in herniated cervical discs.
My doctor decided to put me on Effexor (Venlafaxine). Every two weeks he upped my dose until I could no longer tolerate it. It turned me into a different person.
I began to have visions of how I would commit suicide. They call this "idealization" of suicide.
I would drive to my desired places of death (bridges, lakes, highways) and just contemplate my death.
One time, at around 2 am in the morning I decided to take a drive and have my "last cigarette" at a very unsafe part of a lake shore I began to frequent. Half way through my smoke, I realized there were headlights shining on me. I looked back and saw a police cruiser. There went my plan... (thank goodness, if he wasn't there I might of have possibly went through with something terrible). I went back into my car and drove home and went to bed.

Once I went to Montreal for a weekend and forgot my pills. I have no recollection of that weekend. Apparently I got into a fight with a native woman who was twice my size. I do however, remember contemplating visiting a nearby hospital because I kept feeling these uncontrollable "brain shocks" that were so severe I would loose eye sight for a couple seconds. It felt like I kept getting "reset". I had terrible short term memory loss.
When I got home the first thing I did was take my pills. I made an appointment with my doc and told him I wanted off these pills. Just like he upped my dose every two weeks, he told me to digress 37.5 mg every two weeks.

After that, it was never the same. Something got triggered. I turned psychotic (each day getting worse). I started hearing my name whispered. It sounded like the voice was all around me (not from inside my head, but I guess it was). The shocks were getting almost constant. I had constant anxiety. I couldn't focus. I went into "autopilot" mode.

One day I went to work, and I just freaked out. I had a horrible anxiety attacks and locked myself in the computer room and hyperventilated till I passed out. I woke up in an ambulance. I remember the medic asking if I tried to commit suicide by taking pills. I told him I was trying to get off my pills. He became very sympathetic when I told him to open up my backpack where he can find my medications. After that I dont remember much. I was told my piss test came back positive for PCP.

After that I was set up with a psychiatric team to help me deal with my PTSD. I ended up getting "let go" from my work after that incident happened (turned out to be a good thing, as my work was very triggering for my PTSD and I didn't consciously realize it).

To make the transition off Effexor easier I was prescribed another antidepressant (Prozac/fluoxetine, lowest dose), and I had no problems with that one. It took all the negative side effects of coming off Effexor. I stayed on it for a while as going through that "episode" also left me a bit traumatized and I felt it helped with keeping me focused and level headed. I didn't find it took away my emotions, in fact, I found it allowed me to deal with my emotions but in a much more controlled manner. After a year of being on Prozac, I have decided to get off it as well. I kinda went against my doctors word and started skipping every second day's dose for a week, then every three, until there was no more left.

I have switched to natural remedies.

I've had a slew of negative side-effects over the past twenty years from various psychotropic medications as well...

On one occasion (during inpatient treatment), it literally felt as if my consciousness was falling into a black-hole. I was attempting to go to sleep soon after the nightly administration of Seroquel, and when I realized what was happening, I panicked to the extent that the rush of adrenaline was probably the only thing that kept me from going under permanently. When I tried to inform the night med nurse of this extreme reaction, they seemed annoyed and disinterested and curtly told me to "shut up and go back to bed". It was not only a terrifying experience, but also my first glimpse into a breed of those within the psychiatric profession who have no sympathy or empathy for patients.

I mentioned the negative side effect the next time I had a chance to visit with my primary Psychiatrist, and they told me that such reactions were "not unusual" and that I would "eventually build up a tolerance" to it and continue with the medication as prescribed.

Two months later, and a host of similar (though not as extreme) experiences - I consulted with my psychotherapist about my concerns about said side-effects and he told me flat out to quit taking them.


I did, but given the nature of my condition (schizoaffective bipolar type) there are some aspects of that condition that make complete withdrawl of anti-psychotics most undesirable....the episodes can get just as bad as the side effects, so I continued looking for some sort of pharmacutical that would make the manic delusional phases less frequent.

Long story short, after 20 years of trial and error, my doctors and I are closer than ever to finding the right blend that will not only knock out the more dangerous delusional aspects of the schizophrenic episodes, but so far - we still haven't had anything that combats the major depressive episodes....and those can last for months.


Over the years I've found the most dangerous type of Doctor is one who thinks every symptom is caused by and can subsequently be solved by chemical redistribution.

I am fortunate my current Psychiatrist is insistent on mandatory therapy treatments to address environmental and cognitive issues as opposed to simply working on the chemical imbalance front.

While my current antipsychotic helps take the edge off, it by no means STOPS the voices or delusional thinking - and I'm still trying to make headway with a new therapist to help with a psychoanalytic approach.

20 years and countless doctors and pills. It's getting better, but the entire field of Psychology/Psychiatry has a long way to go....not everyone's brain metabolism is the same, and far too often people are given medication when extensive and positive constructive therapies outside of just pills would do more to help a patient learn coping skills instead of relying on the lie of the "miracle drug".

To everyone out there who deals with a condition, hang in there and never give up.

Most importantly - TALK TO YOUR DOCTOR IF YOU ARE HAVING ANY NEGATIVE SIDE-EFFECTS.

If he/she won't listen and take your concerns into consideration, FIND A NEW DOCTOR WHO LISTENS.

reply to post by InnerTruths
My daughter is on Effexor rx,and did run out of her meds one day boy I was shocked to see the withdraws she experienced.She now is getting herself off by counting the "beads" in each capsule reducing by three or four weekly,it's a slow process but is working for her without sever symptoms.I was on Prozac years ago(now off) and never had the reaction she had with her Effexor rx.

Hey There!

I take 200mg of Zoloft (Sertraline) every day, and have been doing so for a few years now. I must say, that I am a happy customer! Prior to this, I was ready to kill myself. Even though I ate healthy food, exercised daily, got lots of sleep, and kept away from the booze; I had a hard time not curling up into a ball at night and sweating in fear and pain until morning.

Now a days, I'm peaceful, relaxed, able to focus, and am enjoying life. The meds have allowed me to gain enough control, so that I can stop myself from stewing on bad thoughts. I used to get a sharp ball of pain in my gut from stress and anxiety, but the meds seem to relax my gut.

Side effects include needing long naps, imperfect bowel movements and not always being able reach orgasm. However, the side effects have reduced a bit; as I've been able to ween myself down from the 300mg that I used to be on. At 300mg, orgasm was impossible. (Talk about frustrating!)

The best thing about taking antidepressants is the flush of serotonin that I experience throughout the day. One thing to note, is that the antidepressants only work effectively if I exercise daily, eat well, and get lots of sleep.