Originally posted by Cosmic4life
reply to post by waynos
The first image seems real enough to me.
I can understand that, but if I may just point out that for two aircraft to present precisely the same attitude and perspective towards the camera
and, at the same time, cast exactly the same shadows is physically impossible, unless they are both in *exactly* the same place when the pic is taken.
Or put another way, are both the same plane in the first place.
All the other Chinese aircraft are getting the DSI treatment so why not the J-15 ?
Absolutely no reason at all, it's just that this isn't it. I know photgraphs and image manipulation very well and badly done ones are easy to spot.
This is not an image claiming to be the other secret stealth fighter (Snowy Owl), it's just an image showing the DSI development J-15 flying
with the old version.
No need to go all Sherlock Holmes on me mate.
Whatever it claims to be, it is false. Also, the first image does not depict DSI intakes on either aircraft. Surely, that is exactly why this site
exists? So that people with experience and knowledge may help with the whole 'deny ignorance' thing? I posted a quickie fake of my own only to try to
show that I do know what I'm talking about, rather than just being an anti- China naysayer with nothing to back it up.
The second image with what looks like J-20 fins is totally photoshop IMHO but that doesn't mean the first image is fake.
No it doesn't mean that. However, it is, and both modified aircraft, in both images, are very obviously taken from the genuine J-15A that is in the
As you must know, two aircraft flying in close proximity will have virtually identical shadow lines, but if you look closely you will see
subtle differences due to the change in shape of the DSI J-15.
In addition to what I said above about the perspectives etc, the only differences are where the image has been modified, there are no 'natural'
differences at all, which is rather telling. Also the texture of the image in the modified areas differs from the rest of the image (only evident in
the larger one you posted)
Of course any image can be claimed to be doctored these days, i leave it up to the ATS members to make of it what you will.
Of course, and I despair when i see obviously genuine images dismissed as fakes by people with no knowledge but a deep desire to be 'clever'. The J-20
and the recent joined wing UAV are both recent examples of this. However I despair equally when obvious fakes appear.
With some of the very best it can be really difficult, especially some of those that come out of China. But sometimes they are obvious and, at least
to me, this is one of those times. As was yesterday's 'stealthy JH-7B' reveal.
I'm not having a go at you for posting the images and please don't make the mistake of thinking I don't find them of interest, I do. It's just that,
to me, I know what they are and how they were done, cos sometimes, to pass the time, I do it myself.
edit on 17-8-2011 by waynos because: (no reason given)