reply to post by MikeboydUS
By no means am I saying that the crumbling economy and other factors may not lead to civil unrest and a reaction from the government, likely involving
the NG. However, it is obvious folks on here need to do some easy Google/Internets searching and learn some basics about the US military and the
1) Posse Comitatus is NOT in the Constitution. It was a law passed after Reconstruction(1870s) bc of the problems wrought by a harsh martial law which
governed the former Confederate states for up to 12 years. It was effectively ended by George W Bush in 2006. Another misconception: There was NEVER
any declaration of, or practice of, martial law in New Orleans after Katrina. There was bickering between Bush and the weak governor of LA but,
ultimately the normal SOP remained and the Governor remained in charge of the Guard. The regular army presence was largely for media purposes. They
had no power. The Louisiana National Guard, with the backup support of many other states' units, was in charge of the military situation there.
2)The National Guard's legacy comes from state and local militias. In 1903, the first steps were taken to bring uniform standard and some
centralization to the state militias. It was further cemented by the World Wars and Guardsmen served valiantly in both.
3) The NG is made up of your neighbors. Your grocery clerk, your banker, your bartender, your neighborhood cop, the small business owner down the
4) They have a multilayered mission. Sure, guard units deploy overseas under federal authority, but they also have local duties. If a natural or
manmade disaster happens in your area, the most important first responders are the nearest Guard unit. They are trained to perform search and rescue,
evacuation support, engineering support, and yes, law enforcement support. They generally reinforce local and state authorities, and in these
local/state emergency situations, they are, by law, under the authority of the state Governor. Do you think Rick Perry, Bobby Jindal, or Haley Barbour
would give up their power to Obama?
If riots and civil unrest happen, the NG will be involved, but as members of the community they are less likely to "unleash" on their friends, family,
and fellow local citizens.
And Obama can federalize the Guard. I just don't see it happening that easily.
And I know what happened at Kent State, but if you look at the hundreds of NG state deployments that happened nationwide in the 60s during that
decade's unrest, only one shooting incident is actually impressive and tends to reinforce the notion that a Guard unit is unlikely to attack its own
edit on 11-8-2011 by louieprima because: spelling