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The U.S. Military's Plan for London-Like Riots

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posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 07:41 PM
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The U.S. Military's Plan for London-Like Riot/


www.theatlanticwire.com

"...in [the] wake of the turbulent London riots spreading through Britain, questions have been raised about how authorities in the U.S. would respond to a similar domestic disturbance threatening the nation's stability. According to National Journal's White House correspondent Marc Ambinder the U.S. already has a game plan in place. "If what happened in London ever happened in the US, the military has plans -- CONPLAN 3501 and 3502 -- to suppress the 'insurrection'...
(visit the link for the full news article)


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posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 07:41 PM
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Oo00ooh, a sinister sounding name, "CONPLAN." Actually, as the article notes:


"the CONPLAN (which stands for an "operation plan in concept format" at the Pentagon) Ambinder referenced is a popular subject among conspiracy theorists and critics of martial law. According to the public policy organization GlobalSecurity.org, CONPLAN 3502 is the U.S. military's plan for assisting state and local authorities in the event of a riot or major civil disturbance: "Tasks performed by military forces may include joint patrolling with law enforcement officers; securing key buildings, memorials, intersections and bridges; and acting as a quick reaction force."


So perhaps the concept is familar to some of you. Actually it is rumored that CONPLAN has already been invoked by the government, during the LA riots and again in Katrina. Anyway, this short article is worth a look for some information on how the government may go about handling the tubulance of a society undergoing catabolic social breakdown.


www.theatlanticwire.com
(visit the link for the full news article)
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posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 07:46 PM
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Now all they need to do is set up a situation for a riot or civil uprising....




Good game citizen...



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 07:48 PM
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Meanwhile in London the British Parliament doesn't even have the balls to deploy the military.



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 07:49 PM
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Originally posted by starwarsisreal
Meanwhile in London the British Parliament doesn't even have the balls to deploy the military.


Well, they do, just not in their own backyard.

What is ok for Belfast is NOT ok for London.


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posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 07:59 PM
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OP, do some research on Operation Unified Quest 2011
Scary stuff



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 08:02 PM
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The government in the US would do whatever it thought it had to to suppress the uprising as soon as possible. The military would probably be there within 6 hours or so, maybe sooner. If there ever were a huge uprising though, and I mean the majority of the population, I think quite a few soldiers would renounce their oath of allegiance, considering it would be similar to civil war, with families against families.



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 08:07 PM
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It was enacted, but in the form of the National Guard providing support,The difference here and the actual Military is that National Guard is a civilian militia, however if the Military becomes directly involved this is martial law outright, enforced by a single decision of a minority in charge in congress. Isn't the minority now the white old people robbed of their Social Security vetting The Tea Party all over the country? If so they have proven their willingness to go to the mat be it political or physical, so are the signs of revolution and impending domination of the general populace by direct military action here, By that article Id have to say yes, at least upon the declassified section on Signs of social apocalypse as outlined in 3501. I wonder how many of our sons brothers sisters aunts uncles mothers fathers, operating in the military would go along with putting a civil uprising down? If its the peoples will that these men in control of the military, are guilty of what the people are upset about?
We vote, we outcry, we shake our fists and still they smile at us with haughty grins, "We know we are doing wrong" those eyes say, and if you try to go against us, suffer the dogs, Sounds like the lesson Orwell was trying to teach in Animal Farm.



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 08:15 PM
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I don't think that the government nor the military will be able to fathom the complexity of an engagement with its own trained civilians in an event of unrest. there won't be any riots like whats going on in london, and even if there were they would be used as diversions to draw in the goobers and control them


at least that's what i see, i don't foresee another rodney king episode



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 08:25 PM
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no worries,.
let the inner city idiots riot.



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 08:27 PM
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ok, if its the military, isnt that illegal? posse commetatius...forbids miltary use against civilians. constitution says so. and..its not entriely the government conjuring up these viscous ways of pushing and controling the public..its the corporations too..theyde loose mucho $$$ if anarchy broke out in major metroplitan areas. hell, theyve been lobbying in the white house for decades..thier totaly part of this too.



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 08:40 PM
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If ... WE the people... Organize ourselves in a non-violent movement... And use the constitution to overthrow the government then we don't have to use violence(riot)...

If we organize ourselves and try to use the constitution to overthrow the government ... But the people in power don't want to give US whats rightfully OURS ... Then we must take it back at any cost... The future of our kids depends on it... Will we destroy their right of Pursuit of Happiness? Will we allow our grand kids to be slaves to a corporation?

Lets wake up ladies and gents...



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 08:42 PM
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Originally posted by ziggy1706
ok, if its the military, isnt that illegal? posse commetatius...forbids miltary use against civilians. constitution says so. and..its not entriely the government conjuring up these viscous ways of pushing and controling the public..its the corporations too..theyde loose mucho $$$ if anarchy broke out in major metroplitan areas. hell, theyve been lobbying in the white house for decades..thier totaly part of this too.



We are not taught that in school... Most people don't know that... Most military personnel don't even know that... How can we fight ignorance with truth if they choose to teach us to ignore the constitution...



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 08:42 PM
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What did we do during the L.A. riots?

England riots = L.A. riots ...?

*edit* Answer my own question.


On the fourth day (of the L.A. riots in 1992), 4,000 soldiers and Marines arrived from Fort Ord and Camp Pendleton to disperse the crowds and restore order. Soon after the military arrived, order was restored.


en.wikipedia.org...




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posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 08:43 PM
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It's NOT going to happen in America for the same reasons it's happening in England. This started because supposedly a special cop with the criminal gun investigation division got into a firefight with a known drug dealer and shot and killed him. yet one of the investigators or Police higher ups, whoever he was made the stupid mistake to publicly state that there is no indications the drug dealer fired his gun. That One police higher up is responsible for this whole mess. Fire him Now, he's a dummy.

So 300 people from the slum neighborhood got fed up and started riots. We do not know what the truth is and will probably never know. This drug dealer was being investigated on illegal gun charges and he was carrying an illegal gun, if he fired it or not is another matter.

So a known criminal, drug dealer, illegal gun carrier got whacked. Good for him. Now he wont kill any more people with his illegal drugs. The cop who killed him is a hero who saved lives in the long term.

What the English do not understand is this happens all the time in America but people don't riot because Our cops.. All of them carry Big Guns. The gangs and thugs in England ( the majority of the people from the neighborhood who started the riots) and all the stupid people using this as an excuse to loot and maim are not afraid of the cops. Threat from a cop in England carries no weight unlike here in America. Reminds me of a comedy skit. Cop stops robber and says " Stop ..or.. I'll say stop again! ". In America they say Stop or I'll Shoot and if you run from a cop thats is grounds for them to open fire on you to stop you from fleeing.

What the cops need to do in England is announce the use of deadly force for rioters and tell them anyone caught on the streets looting or rioting will be shot on sight and then after given ample time, mow all the people who do not comply down with 50 cal machine guns. If your a law abiding citizen, you better stay off the street.They need to grow some balls or this will not stop. Too many thugs are now in on it and i suspect organized crime. They can only blame themselves for the complacency of the people. Kill em all!



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 08:54 PM
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Originally posted by LanternOfDiogenes
It was enacted, but in the form of the National Guard providing support,The difference here and the actual Military is that National Guard is a civilian militia,


A sad indictment on the level of knowledge around this place!


The National Guard is not a "civilian militia" - it is the reserve military. They aer OFFICIALLY part of hte ARMED FORCES of the USA. Members are "citizen soldiers" in that they are only part time (mostly) so hold down civilian jobs - so they are militia in that sense, but they are definitely still military, and are part of the US Army or Airforce.

There are also less well known "State Defence Forces" in some US states that are not part of the armed forces and are not mobilisable for federal missions - they are often used when the NG has been called out to fill in hte NG's normal roles.

as for the British Govt not having "the balls" to bring in the military - like most civilised conuntries they have a threshold that has to be crossed before doing so - until that threshold is reached it remains a civilian crime policing matter.

Using the police was and is the correct way to deal with the rioting - it wasn't done well at the start, but that's not a reason to bring in the troops!

As for having plans - it would be extremely remis of any responsible Govt NOT to have plans for how to use military if it was required - unplanned deployments would stand a high chance of causing a great deal more trouble for everyone that those where ther has been good planning!



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 08:55 PM
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Originally posted by JohnPhoenix
It's NOT going to happen in America for the same reasons it's happening in England.


Dangerous assumption, considering that economic decline can motivate civil unrest despite whatever may have sparked and ignited it.

It's okay tho, Mostly, Americans riot for all of the right reasons, like winning major sports championships, or occasionally losing one.




posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 09:13 PM
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Thank's for posting.
Bookmarking for the future



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 09:28 PM
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Oh! I want to play.

O.k. If you want to stop rebellion in the U.S.

1. Offer a 10 dollar a month Internet broadband plan to poor people.

2. Cancel all public holidays.

Do I win?



posted on Aug, 11 2011 @ 09:31 PM
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Look, if you want to do that, why not use social networking to urge everyone in the U.S. to unionize!

It makes a lot more sense to unionize then it does to riot.


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