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Article: US is a 'parasite' on world economy: Putin

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posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 09:53 PM
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sorry its like this the the worlds currency is us dollars we borrow from other countries we give billion of dollars each year in foreign aid so our borrowing is one of the symptoms in the spending disease.

then those people who have pushed for globalization that now means one goes down we all do is it all our fault?

not really too many other countries just sit back and ride the wave and now the cash is drying up they are literally freaking out our prosperity has meant other countries prosperity for decades

and now they are going damn why didnt we do something sooner they became dependents on the us

any number of ways this could have been stopped but noone has.

thats my thoughts on it just a theory and putin is just upset because the cash train might stop.




posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 09:59 PM
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Correct Neo... But if we FLIP to the Amero?

Won't that buy more time?

As long as the poor and old folk to have to deal with the growing pains,game on right?

AND? Our best military people are off shore. Safest time ..No?



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 09:59 PM
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Originally posted by The_Seeker
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Well to start with lets look at:
en.wikipedia.org...



Afghanistan Donated $100,000 to the hurricane victims,
Albania Donated $308,000,
Argentina Made offers of help and assistance. Argentina also dispatched an elite team of bilingual mental health professionals
Armenia Pledged $200,000 and made offers of help and assistance


www.guardian.co.uk...



The UK government has spent £20 m to support the people of Haiti following the quake this time last year


Click on the Data Link.

Also FYI on the most charitable countries:

en.wikipedia.org...




1. Sweden - 1.12% 2. Norway - 1.06% 3. Luxembourg - 1.01% 4. Denmark - 0.88% 5. Netherlands - 0.82% 6. Belgium - 0.55% 7. Finland - 0.54% 8. Ireland - 0.54% 9. United Kingdom - 0.52% 10. Switzerland - 0.47% 11. France- 0.46% 12. Spain - 0.46% 13. Germany - 0.35% 14. Canada - 0.30% 15. Austria - 0.30% 16. Australia - 0.29% 17. New Zealand - 0.29% 18. Portugal - 0.23% 19. United States - 0.20% 20. Greece - 0.19% 21. Japan - 0.18% 22. Italy - 0.16% 23. South Korea - 0.10%


Seems to me that the US is in the lower rung of this field.


hell yeah, % wise, sure!

where is india or china with 1.5 billion people?

luxembourg? really? i gave as much as them by myself!

try to post some real dollar numbers.


eta; afghanistan, it was our money anyway.
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posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 10:06 PM
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Originally posted by antar
reply to post by The_Seeker
 


As much truth as is being stated, lest the world remember that the AMERICAN people, have been MORE than GENEROUS in the global community.

The world politicians may have one agenda, but the people of the US are solid gold.


That would require too neutral a position on this matter. Let's forget the fact we became a "superpower" at the request of the global community. We did not want to enter WWII, once Pearl Harbor was attacked we finally bit. We built the most powerful economy, industry and military force the world had ever seen nearly overnight in an historical perspective. We shipped more goods to the Allied and occupied territories than the world has ever repaid. Let's also not forget that we have continued this tradition of global aid into the present. No other nation has donated and exported as much goodwill.

That's not meant as an excuse for our shortcomings, but it is a good reminder.
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posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 10:19 PM
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Originally posted by niceguybob
Correct Neo... But if we FLIP to the Amero?

Won't that buy more time?

As long as the poor and old folk to have to deal with the growing pains,game on right?

AND? Our best military people are off shore. Safest time ..No?


Don't be"extreme" nobody wants granny to starve.
Thequestion is How many "Ameros" to the usd?( or $'s to the single Amero?)

A rate set by the central bankers will determine everything 1usd:1"newbuck" no change,1 "newbuck" for 100(or 1000) greenbacks is different.What does it do to prices?

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posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 10:24 PM
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Ok:

www.poverty.com...




Luxembourg 109 cents 1.09


As for China and India, well India have enough issues trying to support themselves but have managed to donate $1 mil to Bangladesh for infrastructure development, and China - well if the US still wish to donate to a country that has a history (as with the US) with current rights abuses, and whom also like to state that they are still a developing country - then more the fool the US. China does provide aid to Africa, Latin American and SE Asia.

The US are in hock up to their Butts - they are currently looking for more money to get them out of their debt crisis - they have to BORROW other people's money to get them out of this crisis. So when looking at it from this perspective - ITS NOT THE US'S MONEY AT ALL.



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 10:30 PM
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LOL Who's extreme? You just brought up 2 very valid extremities.

Great question back at me,and no..I'm not the answer guy.

Someones not telling us everything for the sake of our well being. I already gave up my contribution to Society in regards to Social Security.

Should I expect new compromises, after I agreed to pre exisiting deals and commitments to and from my government? I paid in for 42 years. I'm ok with that. Now what can I buy?

Just asking.



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 10:31 PM
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maybe i don't know where you are going with this,

but china, india, russia is not on your list of donating countries.

who built hong kong? tiewan? macau?

bangladesh? george harrison ring any bells?



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 10:34 PM
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yeah right we are parasites? we give more money to them than they have ever "given" us. in fact when has anyone in the rest of the world given money to us ?



LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What's the matter NEO? Don't like to be called a parasite? If anyone would be ok with it, I thought it would be you, since you spend so much time calling the elderly and poor PARASITES and LEECHES.



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 10:37 PM
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sue me i never got over the cold war



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 10:37 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by antar
 


sorry its like this the the worlds currency is us dollars we borrow from other countries we give billion of dollars each year in foreign aid so our borrowing is one of the symptoms in the spending disease.

then those people who have pushed for globalization that now means one goes down we all do is it all our fault?

not really too many other countries just sit back and ride the wave and now the cash is drying up they are literally freaking out our prosperity has meant other countries prosperity for decades

and now they are going damn why didnt we do something sooner they became dependents on the us

any number of ways this could have been stopped but noone has.

thats my thoughts on it just a theory and putin is just upset because the cash train might stop.


As stated and proven in previous posts, the US is NOT the biggest "owner" of donations - so no sorry your argument doesnt work with regard to that.
The GFC was more than proven to be the fault of the US, why not start taking responsibility...
Whom is dependent on the US? From what I can understand, correct me if I am wrong. The US is owned now by other countries, again due to their debt issues, so, again, Whom is dependent on the US
Sound to me like the US is dependent on other countries.
Yes any number of ways this could have been stopped if the US Gov were more careful in the habits when it came to the worlds finances maybe the world wouldnt be in this mess, they had many a warning this was going to occur if spending habits were not modified. Got too big for yar boots!
If you donate to someone that doesnt really need it - Be on the US's head. The US is not the top giver when it comes to supporting other countries.. See previous posts for links.



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 10:51 PM
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Originally posted by The_Seeker

Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by antar
 


sorry its like this the the worlds currency is us dollars we borrow from other countries we give billion of dollars each year in foreign aid so our borrowing is one of the symptoms in the spending disease.

then those people who have pushed for globalization that now means one goes down we all do is it all our fault?

not really too many other countries just sit back and ride the wave and now the cash is drying up they are literally freaking out our prosperity has meant other countries prosperity for decades

and now they are going damn why didnt we do something sooner they became dependents on the us

any number of ways this could have been stopped but noone has.

thats my thoughts on it just a theory and putin is just upset because the cash train might stop.


As stated and proven in previous posts, the US is NOT the biggest "owner" of donations - so no sorry your argument doesnt work with regard to that.
The GFC was more than proven to be the fault of the US, why not start taking responsibility...
Whom is dependent on the US? From what I can understand, correct me if I am wrong. The US is owned now by other countries, again due to their debt issues, so, again, Whom is dependent on the US
Sound to me like the US is dependent on other countries.
Yes any number of ways this could have been stopped if the US Gov were more careful in the habits when it came to the worlds finances maybe the world wouldnt be in this mess, they had many a warning this was going to occur if spending habits were not modified. Got too big for yar boots!
If you donate to someone that doesnt really need it - Be on the US's head. The US is not the top giver when it comes to supporting other countries.. See previous posts for links.


firstly, the US is not "owned" by any other countries.

the US was never dependent on another country.

the US is not to blame for the worlds socialistic mess they got themselves in.

russia shut off a countries gas supply in winter when they didn't pay their bill!! lol!

china will offer help at a scale that people say, "naw, you keep it"

americans are generous to a fault.

did i see saudi arabia in that list?



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 10:55 PM
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Originally posted by fooks
reply to post by The_Seeker
 


maybe i don't know where you are going with this,

but china, india, russia is not on your list of donating countries.

who built hong kong? tiewan? macau?

bangladesh? george harrison ring any bells?




No I dont think you do (without sound rude).
Also there is many another country that has helped to rebuild other countries, the US doesnt hold the Medal for this.
As for China, India and Russia not being on the list, who cares we are not talking about them. If you read the post correctly you will see that we were talking about, apart from the original article, what people think is fact that the US help out more than other countries, this was not a fact and proven as far as I am concerned.



posted on Aug, 1 2011 @ 11:47 PM
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Originally posted by fooks

Originally posted by The_Seeker

Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by antar
 


sorry its like this the the worlds currency is us dollars we borrow from other countries we give billion of dollars each year in foreign aid so our borrowing is one of the symptoms in the spending disease.

then those people who have pushed for globalization that now means one goes down we all do is it all our fault?

not really too many other countries just sit back and ride the wave and now the cash is drying up they are literally freaking out our prosperity has meant other countries prosperity for decades

and now they are going damn why didnt we do something sooner they became dependents on the us

any number of ways this could have been stopped but noone has.

thats my thoughts on it just a theory and putin is just upset because the cash train might stop.


As stated and proven in previous posts, the US is NOT the biggest "owner" of donations - so no sorry your argument doesnt work with regard to that.
The GFC was more than proven to be the fault of the US, why not start taking responsibility...
Whom is dependent on the US? From what I can understand, correct me if I am wrong. The US is owned now by other countries, again due to their debt issues, so, again, Whom is dependent on the US
Sound to me like the US is dependent on other countries.
Yes any number of ways this could have been stopped if the US Gov were more careful in the habits when it came to the worlds finances maybe the world wouldnt be in this mess, they had many a warning this was going to occur if spending habits were not modified. Got too big for yar boots!
If you donate to someone that doesnt really need it - Be on the US's head. The US is not the top giver when it comes to supporting other countries.. See previous posts for links.


firstly, the US is not "owned" by any other countries.

the US was never dependent on another country.

the US is not to blame for the worlds socialistic mess they got themselves in.

russia shut off a countries gas supply in winter when they didn't pay their bill!! lol!

china will offer help at a scale that people say, "naw, you keep it"

americans are generous to a fault.

did i see saudi arabia in that list?





firstly, the US is not "owned" by any other countries.

Was referring more to the Debt.
leosigh.com...
en.wikipedia.org...
247wallst.com...




the US was never dependent on another country.


Not just for the debt, but also for Oil, Gas, and other products:
dailytrojan.com...
agmetalminer.com...
abcnews.go.com...




russia shut off a countries gas supply in winter when they didn't pay their bill!! lol!

Maybe you should have a look at Guantunamo Bay and their treatment of people there.




china will offer help at a scale that people say, "naw, you keep it"

I dont understand what your saying here I am sorry.




americans are generous to a fault.

Again, your still not the top of the list. There are other countries out there that are truely generous to a fault, US is not the top of the list.




did i see saudi arabia in that list?

What list are you referring to, they are not in the list for Top donators if that is what your asking.



posted on Aug, 2 2011 @ 12:15 AM
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just as i thought,

another USA hit thread.

sorry, taking my donations and going home.



posted on Aug, 2 2011 @ 12:16 AM
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Yeah, Putin's got that right but some of us are quite generous: it's the media putting the spin on things.


He may be referring to fat and lazy ones. But we Americans are happy just the same.



posted on Aug, 2 2011 @ 12:17 AM
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Mate - Government not the people!



posted on Aug, 2 2011 @ 12:30 AM
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ok, gov.

they still help people the public have some problem with.

NK, even cuba.

myanmar.

too many handouts if you ask me.

"diminishing returns" comes to mind.

chasing an inside straight, throwing good money after bad,

countries give to further their agenda's.

the people give from the heart.



posted on Aug, 2 2011 @ 01:24 AM
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1985: Israel-United States Free Trade Agreement
1994: North American Free Trade Agreement
2001: Jordan-United States Free Trade Agreement
2004: Australia-United States Free Trade Agreement, Chile-United States Free Trade Agreement, Singapore-United States Free Trade Agreement
2005: Dominican Republican-Central American Free Trade Agreement
2006: Bahrain-United States Free Trade Agreement, Morocco-United States Free Trade Agreement, Oman-United States Free Trade Agreement
2007: Peru-United States Free Trade Agreement

That helps to explain the chart a lot.



posted on Aug, 2 2011 @ 03:15 AM
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I have been to Russia quite a few times since 2000. On my first trip it seemed like a doomed nation with horrendous poverty and infrastructure decay. It has since improved dramatically and is a much more vibrant place -- people are even having babies again.

As for the USA....




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