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'World's fastest broadband' trial successfully produces speeds 240 times better than British average

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Unless I'm going blind, the article is a little disappointing with regards to not describing the technical background on how exactly they are achieving these speeds.

More info:

The ISP said it was delivering1.5Gb download and 150Mb upload speeds on the same fibre optic infrastructure as it uses to provide residential customers with speeds of up to 100Mb. Read more: www.thinq.co.uk...

reply to post by moebius

moebius.. Thanks for supplementing the information on this thread... I was searching for Virgins broadband page, when I noticed you already provided answers ...

Thanks.

1.5 Gbps is nothing, in Taunton MA Verizon is testing a 10 Gbps Fiber Optics connection. That there is a lot of data, you could fill a one Terabyte disk in about two mins.

Verizon 10 Gbps

I get 20 meg a second thru virgin, and I'm considering going for the 50, though they are really starting to push the 100 now.
Anyway, its way better than what my mates get on non virgin.

Just one more thing to fuel the human 'have it now' addiction, I love it how people only think of the benefits rather than the bigger picture. Children today already have started ceasing to 'play', it may not seem important, but a childs 'play' time & activities are fundamental to how it will turn out as an adult. Just saying a world of dysfunctional, socially inept adults will not function in a productive way

fastest from memory was a lil old lady in sweden - her son was a big cog at cisco - they pumped 19.1 gbps to her over a large distance, i wonder what her ping was like?.......

don't be fooled tho, I would say most sites are on a T1 or bigger enterprise on T3 or several.

a T1 is 1.5mbps down and up
a T3 is 100mbps down and up

But your connection to a site at best is going to be 5mbps that is going to like a cnn.com or yahoo.com.

If your a power user and your torrenting/ streaming media/ visiting websites/web apps like salesforce all at once having a big pipe 25mbps or better will just allow you to maintain speeds while under heavy load.

This is also if your computer can handle all that activity.

so when looking at spending a sizable chunk on Internet, ask your self are you going to use it to it's full potential

The way understand it, is that the telcos already have potential to goose it up there already. It's a simple setting in your modem called MTU (maximum transfer units, or something like that), which is currently set at 1540 kpbs for everyone. Rumor has it that they could stream TV right to your PC screen, if they made a new RFC to allow a new standard. Heck, why don't they?

Waiting......

Uhm, there are companies out there that make lots of money charging you for cable and television. They DO NOT want their service obsolete. They fight it.

Don't worry though, every thing will work out to be one device someday. They just have to figure out how to charge you for it, and make the most profit from it.

Originally posted by Semaphore527
1.5 Gbps is nothing, in Taunton MA Verizon is testing a 10 Gbps Fiber Optics connection. That there is a lot of data, you could fill a one Terabyte disk in about two mins.

Verizon 10 Gbps

That's more capacity than I could use.

When I backup a full terabyte hard drive to another terabyte hard drive, the transfer rate is about 1Gb a minute which means the total time is roughly 1000 minutes, which is almost 17 hours. That means I couldn't use all that bandwidth if I had it, with this computer and these hard drives.

Originally posted by Semaphore527
This is also if your computer can handle all that activity.

so when looking at spending a sizable chunk on Internet, ask your self are you going to use it to it's full potential

point taken. I could use a faster connection, but some of these speeds would definitely outpace my current PC capability.

If you are talking about 1 computer in the house, then, yes, its frivolous. These days there are more and more things in your house that chip away at bandwidth, so more is better. In my house there are 2 mobiles using WiFi, 2 ps3s 3 laptops, a desktop and a Wii. Being able to stream the footy while my boys play cod and my wife is on face book is good for family harmony.

I sometimes fail to see how people can need terrabytes of download limits, 50mb/s speeds.. its ludicrous.

i mean, seriously how much movies, music, porn and games can you possibly download?

torrenting, forums, browsing.. people need to turn off and go outside a bit more i think!

Originally posted by AmmonSeth
Just one more thing to fuel the human 'have it now' addiction, I love it how people only think of the benefits rather than the bigger picture. Children today already have started ceasing to 'play', it may not seem important, but a childs 'play' time & activities are fundamental to how it will turn out as an adult. Just saying a world of dysfunctional, socially inept adults will not function in a productive way

As a father I can tell you that is down to the parents... simple as that.

Just because I have a top end pc and laptop and 50meg from virgin - does not mean my children are allowed on it.... the internet is for adults or homework only

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No games? For shame!
Seriously, though, with the exceptions of things like Facebook, bebo, etc. I'm happy for my kids to play on the net. They have to be in the living room, though, just so they know the limits. It's a lot of fun to send them off for twenty minutes to find out as much as they can about Tesla, Tom Paine, Picasso or any number of things that school may not bother to teach them.

I also enjoy playing cod now and then and having the boys pop up in game. The howls of rage when "the old man gets them are funny.

The limiting factor in the vast majority of my downloads is the server, not the speed of my (8 megabit) internet. We need better servers and cheaper internet, and the removal of extremely low download limits, rather than even higher speeds, imho.

i mean, seriously how much movies, music, porn and games can you possibly download?

My record is about 200 gigabytes in a month. Both my tb hard disks are almost full. Why? Why not. 1080p movies are like >8 gigabytes each and even if you pay for it legally, it's still cheaper and easier than buying a physical copy.

Children today already have started ceasing to 'play', it may not seem important, but a childs 'play' time & activities are fundamental to how it will turn out as an adult. Just saying a world of dysfunctional, socially inept adults will not function in a productive way

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And this has something to do with the thread because...? And Children are ceasing to play... wth are you talking about? No they're not.

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Google is experimenting with 1Gbs speeds in Standford, if anyone is curious.

www.google.com...

Someone said that the higher speeds are great for multi-device households. I think that is a good point. In contrast, if you have only one device in use at one time for the most part, then to demand for higher speeds to me seems excessive and a waste of money.

Not long ago it used to take 30 minutes to download a song. Now it takes a few minutes at most, yet people are excited over faster speeds. If you download movies, then I can see why you might be wanting a faster connection. But, I think there are people out there who kind of obsess over the speed of their connection for the fun factor; it goes along with demanding the newest devices I think.

What I have done in the past is to pay for high speeds during a period of time (even if only a few days) when I know I need them. Then, I switch back down when I don't. Saves me a lot of money.

Originally posted by C0bzz

And this has something to do with the thread because...?

It has everything to do with it, because these gadgets and utilities are supposed to improve the quality of life. That's what it's all about, isn't it?
And they aren't. Except, maybe, the life of those who are producing all these contraptions.

Not long ago it used to take 30 minutes to download a song. Now it takes a few minutes at most, yet people are excited over faster speeds.

The question such people never ask themselves, and probably could not answer it, is: "What exactly would you do with the time that you have 'gained'?" Not in theory but in practice.

Escapism always indicates that one's quality of life leaves a LOT to be desired.
So much so that many people prefer not to think about it at all.

Just to clear up a few things:

Originally posted by Semaphore527
a T1 is 1.5mbps down and up
a T3 is 100mbps down and up

A T3 is 45Mb down and up...

Originally posted by Druid42
It's a simple setting in your modem called MTU (maximum transfer units, or something like that), which is currently set at 1540 kpbs for everyone.

MTU = Maximum Transmission Unit...usually set to 1500 and is measured in bytes. It's the maximum size of an Ethernet "frame". There something called a Jumbo frame which can be as large as 9126, but unfortunately, Jumbo frames would have to be enabled across the entire link (from your house to the website you're viewing) in order to achieve the maximum effect.

The term "broadband" is thrown around so willy nilly these days...if a provider is running FTTC (fiber to the curb), depending upon the type of fiber, you can easily get 10Gb to your house (both up and down). The real problem is backhauling that to the ISP. You get into oversubscription, so now your 10Gb might actually only be 1Gb depending on who else is hogging the pipe. Now if Virgin is truly doing this over their existing DSL/Cable infrastructure that's pretty pimp, but I'd like to see more technical details.

Also, there is a difference between Gb (gigabit), and GB (gigabyte) - 8 bits = 1 byte

10 Gbps = 1.25 GBps