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Could China Towns Be A Security Threat If the West Goes to War with China?

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posted on Jul, 16 2011 @ 10:04 AM
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Originally posted by ZIVONIC
Kind of racist, actually very racist. No one should ever be detained because of the color of their skin.

IIRC, the most decorated US unit in WWII was a segregated Japanese unit fighting in Europe. This was while their brothers and sisters were being held in concentration camps withing the US. I assure you, china town is no threat to national security.


Hey genius, they wouldn't be detained on race, rather nationality or country of origin. And yes, we need to deal with this problem now.



posted on Jul, 16 2011 @ 03:21 PM
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Your flag sort of sums up the hatred you expressed against a member who if you actually bothered to read any of my posts before trolling this thread , you would quite plainly see, is not racist but concerned.

How about I barge into one of your threads ....call you a racist denegrate your race and display the cross of Saint George at the end...I wouldn't because I have manners and respect the facts




Aye, Iam off to boil some wee haggis.
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posted on Jul, 16 2011 @ 03:34 PM
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Originally posted by Dr Expired
Do you know how many chinese have in the last decade have arrived in the west?


They are probably here to claim the land China bought when they bought up all those foreclosures on American homes..


Chinese Tourists Buying Foreclosure Properties
www.realestateproarticles.com...

U.S. defense contractors sending classified work to China?


First, China began to assemble household products for the U.S. market. Then the country graduated to notebooks. Now Chinese companies are performing research for classified systems bound for the Defense Department.


news.cnet.com...

Buzz Aldrin partner and senior science adviser in Gravwave LLC a company that is working with China to develop anti gravity tech in China

CHINESE & US GRAVWAVE JOINT HFGW PROJECT
www.gravwave.com...

Buzz is on page 9
Gravwave team
www.gravwave.com...

I work trade shows here in Vegas... more and more Chinese companies flocking in to sell cheap goods and flood the market and they try to beat the rules. We had one company that smuggled in a huge tire for mining trucks in a container to avoid the US tariffs on Chinese tires

Many US corporations are sending YOUR jobs to China where they have no pollution standards, cheap labor and no health and safety standards

Have YOU bought any product recently made in China? Uh huh...

If you look at Chinese history you will see that China has always come out on top of its enemies by ABSORBING them...

Seems they are pulling the rug out from under us before any shots are fired

Good thing I like Chinese food



Now back to ebay ... I see some really good deals on Chinese and Tibetan jewelery



posted on Jul, 16 2011 @ 05:07 PM
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Strange is it not , how so unconcerned people seem to be about the loooming next world war with China, not many supportive reply on this thread, yet other threads the OP has written have received flags , some of the subjects being less serious than this one.
Its as if you express a valid and genuine concern that involves the Chinese being a possible secutity threat it is racist, yet there has been barely a logical or valid argument against this possibility.

The trojan horse story was meant to serve as a warning, to the folowing generations , yet even a hypothetical on the subject is ridiculed and ignored by people who know nothing of Maos Chinas stated aims.
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posted on Jul, 16 2011 @ 06:48 PM
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Originally posted by Dr Expired
Strange is it not , how so unconcerned people seem to be about the loooming next world war with China,


Not strange at all.. I saw it in the nuclear crisis in Japan... after a few days no one gave a damn. Apathy... until it effects them directly no one cares. Few even know the Japanese crisis is far from over and escalating

When the Chinese soldiers come marching up Main Street they may care


Maybe it will be a good thing
China has a new policy of freedom in business so long as you stay out of politics. I have never met a Chinese person yet that I haven't been able to be on good terms with. They can't do much worse than the current politicians running this country.
And they already own us anyway


Heck even NASA knows the score


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posted on Jul, 16 2011 @ 07:04 PM
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Yes , but we should remember the prosperity China now is enjoying comes on the backs of slave workers by the millions.
Its breathless the hypocrisy of western liberals who proclaim Political correctness as the new religion, but ignore the human rights violations perpetrated on milions of human beings trapped inside China.



posted on Jul, 16 2011 @ 07:05 PM
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i highly doubt there would be a widespread threat from the chinatowns.

they left china don't forget, it's like being let out of jail.

you think they would want to go back to chinese rule?

after all, china would not be liberating any country they invade for sure.

if china went to war, they would be a big threat to them and probably get messed up pretty good right off the bat.



posted on Jul, 16 2011 @ 07:20 PM
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Yes very good point..but not all Chinese have fled China...in fact most of the Slave workers are trapped and can't get away, therefore many have come to the west to make profit, some still travel back to China regularly.

Some are here by overstaying visas and get lost in the west so to speak, no security checks have been done on these people yet they are here.
Surely this is a double standard?
We have had so many freedoms taken away in the west in the name of National Security...yet we have millions of people all over the Western world who arrive by Aeroplane and flaunt our security and overstay student(sic) visas and holiday visas.
Forged passports and forged ID cards and hey presto . .. they are lost in the system...we need to remember many of the chinese are maoists , and trained.



posted on Jul, 16 2011 @ 07:29 PM
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Iam ok with the Ghettoes its legal


I'm not "okay" with it? Those people should be doing a lot more to increase the chances of their children to get out of that cycle.I pray for those children to get out of that mess.



posted on Jul, 16 2011 @ 07:44 PM
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Originally posted by mugger
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Iam ok with the Ghettoes its legal


I'm not "okay" with it? Those people should be doing a lot more to increase the chances of their children to get out of that cycle.I pray for those children to get out of that mess.


Actually I used the term ghetto in a neutral sense...district is a better word perhaps?
many chinese capatilists do very well within these districts they sell Chinese groceries, chinese newspapers,chinese books and general merchandise, they set up Chinese Banks and Chinese casinos,ect ect ect ect ect ectect ect ect, sort of like China,without the tyranny .
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posted on Jul, 16 2011 @ 07:51 PM
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while i can roll with some sleeper cells put into place in advance for an invasion.

they wouldn't be general soldiers, they would be trained to hit certain targets then maybe general mayhem till they get caught.

as for some disappearing using forged documents, they couldn't get out of china in the first place with them.

if they were gov issue, then china would probably be looking for them, too.

i need a visa to go into china even though i am a permanent resident of HKSAR and married to a chinese.

the chinese people as a whole do not want war, they have had enough.

sure china has a big army but what country doesn't have armed forces.

spying and stuff is practiced by all countries, also.

invasion and occupation by the chinese on the western countries is way out there.

they like money and would not want to go back to mao, even communism there is under threat now.



posted on Jul, 16 2011 @ 08:01 PM
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Sorry I meant forged documents in relation to them buying them once they overstay their visa or holiday ticket.
They actually (and not just the chinese) dissappear into the districts after coming to the country of choice legally.
It is the most least known or talked about security issue in the west.
They prefer to demonise those arriving as refugees coming on boats ect.
Whilst many times more just come by plane with cash and set up a new life , using fake cards ect



posted on Jul, 16 2011 @ 08:11 PM
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true.

we do need to be on top of these things.

the USA is a big country but still, the lax at the borders and INS, DHS and customs is horrible.



posted on Jul, 16 2011 @ 09:03 PM
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Yes but a radical tyranical solution to security first requires an out of control problem....the suppy of this problem is being encouraged until the tyranny is implemented on all of us including thhe majority who were no security threat.

The government could stop this illegal entry by palne right now , making foreigners report to Neighbourhood Visa Stations every week they are in the country, if they do not show up ..a microchip that is temporarily attatched to their wrist with unbreakable and insoluble locks is able to help the Authorities locate them and deport them.

Easy and makes the nation secure.



posted on Jul, 16 2011 @ 09:17 PM
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Originally posted by Dr Expired
Yes , but we should remember the prosperity China now is enjoying comes on the backs of slave workers by the millions.


The problem with that is that the Chinese people are okay with that... and if you look at modern China they actually have a lot more freedoms now. They even opened pawn shops again (that don't really care where it comes from) Give them 10 years... They have a different outlook on what is considered slavery by us. Its easy to look at it from our chairs but you have to consider their culture has worked this way for thousands of years

While here in America the corporations would love to see the pendulum swing here



posted on Jul, 16 2011 @ 09:45 PM
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Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by Dr Expired
Yes , but we should remember the prosperity China now is enjoying comes on the backs of slave workers by the millions.


The problem with that is that the Chinese people are okay with that... and if you look at modern China they actually have a lot more freedoms now. They even opened pawn shops again (that don't really care where it comes from) Give them 10 years... They have a different outlook on what is considered slavery by us. Its easy to look at it from our chairs but you have to consider their culture has worked this way for thousands of years

While here in America the corporations would love to see the pendulum swing here


I appreciate what you are saying has merit if it is applied to the middle and rising lower to middle classes , but there are literally millions of them who have been abducted and prodded to work en masse.

Sort of like what happenned to the peasants in England as the industrial revolution juggernaut started rolling over
the western nations farmland and villages.

Entire provinces almost have been displaced to make way for dams and industrial progress, the millions are forced to find work in towns and cities where they are lured by false expectations.

They are expendable.
That is why so many try and escape.
And that is fine , as long as they are screened and security checks are enforced .



posted on Jul, 18 2011 @ 03:17 PM
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Right now we are at war with "Terrorism" you dont see every american that happens to be a Muslim in any kind of fema camp do you...that is if they haven't committed a crime. What makes you think that all Chinese people want to live under communism? I doubt most would want to do that here in the good ole usa.



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