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Prisoners Near Death As 1,700 California Inmates Continue Hunger Strike To Protest Appalling Conditi

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posted on Jul, 14 2011 @ 12:46 AM
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California prisons were ordered by the Supreme Court to reduce in numbers back in May.

CA Ordered to Reduce Prison Overcrowding by Supreme Court; Guv Says Realignment Vital


The U.S. Supreme Court has finally issued a ruling on California’s overcrowded prisons, and on a 5-4 decision, the state has been ordered to follow a prisoner-release plan devised by a three-judge panel due to the conclusion that overcrowding violated constitutional protections against cruel and unusual punishment.


And with a perfect track record of incompetence this happened shortly after


California released 450 violent criminals ``by mistake`` following SCOTUS decision



A computer system that lacked key information about inmates factored in the release of an estimated 450 prisoners with a "high risk of violence," according to the California inspector general. No attempt was made to return any of the offenders to state lockups or place them on supervised parole, said inspector general spokeswoman Renee Hansen.


But apparently the living conditions in the prisons are still awful. Absolute terrible conditions. Here's news clip about the prison systems, the living conditions, and the Supreme Court.

High Court to California: Cut Prison Inmates


And I find out there's inmates right now engaging in hunger strikes because they would rather die of starvation than to continue living in a world with they don't even have basic human rights.

As you read the article you'll see they're also protesting the debriefing process:


The prisoners say the debriefing process can result in an inmate being incorrectly labeled a snitch, making those inmates targets for violence.


Source


A hunger strike started by prisoners at Pelican Bay to protest appalling conditions has spread across California as inmates at 13 prisons joined in solidarity. The number of inmates refusing food hit a peak of 6,600, and is now estimated at 1,700. They are now in their 13th day of the hunger strike, and relatives are reporting that many are near death but still refusing medical attention.

Pelican Bay is a maximum security facility where inmates are held in windowless isolation cells for more than 22 hours a day, shower once every three days, and can have little or no contact with other prisoners for years and even decades at a time:


Support grows for California prisoners’ hunger strike




Even California prison authorities acknowledge that 6,600 prisoners were participating in the hunger strike called by inmates in Pelican Bay State Prison’s Security Housing Unit over the “Fourth of July” weekend. (Los Angeles Times, July 9) Pelican Bay is California’s supermax prison. The prisoners in the SHU are in solitary confinement, some for decades.


Relatives say California inmates on hunger strike getting sick, weak




Advocates say California prison inmates on a hunger strike are getting sicker and weaker, with some nearing severe dehydration. Inmates in a number of California prisons began refusing food 12 days ago. Prison officials say they’re concerned - but, they say, no inmates have reached a “crisis” stage.

Advocates supporting the hunger strike say 200 inmates in the Security Housing Unit (SHU) at Pelican Bay are “progressing rapidly” toward organ damage from extreme dehydration.


Prisoners Near Death in California Hunger Strike




Prisoners at Pelican Bay, a maximum-security prison in northern California, began a hunger strike 12 days ago to protest their conditions in the solitary unit. The strike quickly spread to other prisons, and eight days later, the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation admitted that at least 6,600 prisoners in at least 13 of the state’s prisons were refusing food. Now, the number has dropped to 795 prisoners at 6 prisons, but the ones who are still refusing food are becoming sicker and weaker. According to advocates for the prisoners, at Pelican Bay, 200 inmates are “progressing rapidly toward the organ damaging consequences of dehydration.”


Calif. sees gang ties in prisoners' hunger strike




Hundreds of inmates in five state prisons ended the second week of a hunger strike to protest living conditions Thursday, in what has become the largest coordinated protest by state inmates, officials said. Prison administrators said the 676 remaining inmates who have refused meals since the strike began July 1 probably synchronized their statewide effort through organized criminal networks.


This is ridiculous and this needs to end now! It's clear no one should look to Gov't to take care of them, they cannot.


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posted on Jul, 14 2011 @ 12:50 AM
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Let em rot. I'm tired of not being able to afford healthcare, but my taxes give prisoners all of the free health care they can get. It's a slap to the face of the working tax payer.

I don't get what their bitching about any way. If they didn't want to eat prison food, they should have thought about that before the commited the felony.

So let those bastards die of starvation. Thats 1700 less felons to worry about. I'm sick of flipping the bill for their three hots and a cot, plus free medical.



posted on Jul, 14 2011 @ 12:55 AM
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There aren't 3 hot's and a cot. it's usually 2 colds and 1 "hot" if you are lucky. And the healthcare they receive could barely be considered such. I have known of some people who went in healthy to just a county jail and left with staph infections from the cell conditions after just a few days. Just an FYI.
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posted on Jul, 14 2011 @ 12:56 AM
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I gotta be honest, I don't like your attitude, but you're free to express it. I view prisons today as big business. I got to see it first hand on a smaller scale in the form of "alternative" schools for emotionally disturbed kids. Basically their last stop before juvenile hall. I've seen a lot of good kids get ruined in this system. Some make it out but they've all been through hell. It's truly a dog eat dog world. Now watch that prison video again and imagine yourself sleeping in that bunk bed in the dark gym.

I wouldn't ever hope you'd rot in there. No way man



posted on Jul, 14 2011 @ 12:58 AM
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0/10

You overdid it.

The delivery was good, but it was just too much in one post.

Anyhow, I hope the American start treating each other like humans. Once that happens, we'll be back on the road to prosperity.



posted on Jul, 14 2011 @ 01:01 AM
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FYI, I used to push them around the hospital. I know exactly what kind of health care they recieve. The expensive kind. It also requires two California state protections officers to escort one wounded or sick prisoner. They make almost 30 bucks an hour plus over time almost daily. California taxes pays for it.

2 colds and a pint of crappy juice is better than any other nations prison in the world. You know what they get in mexico? Gruel. Its a mixture of protein paste and beans. Maybe they get a tortillia and a cup of brown water to go with it.

I'm not saying you have to agree with me, all I'm saying is felons deserve what they get. They're making a choice to starve themselves, I say fine, let them die than. What do they want a flipping steak dinner? It's prison, damn it, not a Hilton.
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posted on Jul, 14 2011 @ 01:37 AM
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Appalling conditions? ahahhahaah That's funny. What else do they want....18 rounds of golf? As someone else had mentioned...being in a mexican prison, aint nothing pretty. The inmates in the U.S. think they got it bad there, go to Mexico and get a taste. They could care less if you don't eat. They aint there to feed you, or cloth you, or "hook you up" with cable, and let you shop for snacks. If you break the law in Mexico....you'll be wishin' you didn't. You'll be praying for the 'appalling conditions' in Pelican Bay.

Besides, the U.S. prison system is BIG business. It's HARDLY about correction.



posted on Jul, 14 2011 @ 01:42 AM
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First off some people get wrongly imprisoned and years later everybody finds out there innocent not every body in prison are guilty. The people that are guilty are still people and i bet if you saw a bunch of dogs over crowded in the pound you would call to have something done about it but that many people in one place is such a good thing to you. I was in prison for something i was not even part of i made straight As all through school and after i got out the day before i went to the MEP base in Atlanta i got drunk with my brothers and passed out in the back of a vehicle and they stole some stuff and i got charges with felony theft just for being there.
Now on the part of medical while i was locked up i had to have a tooth pulled and you say these prisoners get such great health care hell i had to wait over two weeks to get a tooth that had an infection all the way up in removed because over half off it was knocked out and you know what i got for pain a couple of tylonal 800 ya that deffinatly helps with the pain so hate on every felon you want but sooner or later youll be in the wrong place at the wrong time and i hope you get alot longer than i got



posted on Jul, 14 2011 @ 01:45 AM
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Won't happen. I abide by the law.

But hey, you served your time and your out, so in my book you squared up with society.

Sorry about the tooth. Now you won't be in a rush to commit that next felony.



posted on Jul, 14 2011 @ 01:49 AM
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and to you buddy your right but for conditions to be like that in a country thats so hell bent on human rights like amerika you think they wouldnt put people in as bad a place as mexico whos human rights policys aren't that great and its funny some of the prisoners in pelican are there for selling pot such a bad crime that kills so many people o really pot does such bad things as help with sickness from chemotherapy add adhd and depression with out all the bad effects wouldnt it be better for your kids to smoke pot than to be put on pure methamphetamine's really thats all aderall is



posted on Jul, 14 2011 @ 01:49 AM
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and to you buddy your right but for conditions to be like that in a country thats so hell bent on human rights like amerika you think they wouldnt put people in as bad a place as mexico whos human rights policys aren't that great and its funny some of the prisoners in pelican are there for selling pot such a bad crime that kills so many people o really pot does such bad things as help with sickness from chemotherapy add adhd and depression with out all the bad effects wouldnt it be better for your kids to smoke pot than to be put on pure methamphetamine's really thats all aderall is



posted on Jul, 14 2011 @ 01:50 AM
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Release all the non-violent offenders that are serving long term, problem solved.



posted on Jul, 14 2011 @ 01:52 AM
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dude i was passed out in the back seat of the vehicle drunk of dry gin they got me with an accessory charge even though they found me passed out and both the witnesses testified that i was and the blood alcohol test was off the charts so you never know wrong place wrong time and all it happens all the time



posted on Jul, 14 2011 @ 02:02 AM
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You know, it's amazing you're a member of this conspiracy website. You must read daily on here the corruption, police brutality, unjust wars, political scandals, etc,... so with all of this you really think the majority of the population in these over crowded prisons belong there because corrupt lawman and officials said so?

You do know that the war on drugs help put a lot of these people away. A war I am calling a complete failure from day 1, and as conspiracies goes, it's a lot deeper than that.

So let these people out now. It's time we start taking care of the world and each other because presently we are doing a crappy job and some attitudes stink around here



posted on Jul, 14 2011 @ 02:13 AM
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i like you swills good for you and ya the drug war is a horrible thing and its really messing up the border towns in mexico were the cartels are setting up. O and for anyone wondering im not just getting my info from here i also watch alot of cspan and i get out and actually talk to people and see whats going on around me



posted on Jul, 14 2011 @ 02:40 AM
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I understand. And believe me when I say I'm sorry that you had to go in. I am no stranger to the county system. when i was a youth I had the privilege of doing a stint in a juvenile detention center. That's partially why I have such a firm stance on why prisoners deserve limited rights.

For every one innocent man (or woman) that is truly innocent and receives a sentence there are at least a thousand are dead to rights guilty, and deserve it. Because the system scared the crap out of me. That was the point, and it worked. It got the message through my thick teenage skull that if I continue on the path I was on back then I would end up just like the rest of the repeat offenders up in Pelican Bay.

Pelican Bay is a tough Prison to get into. It's CDC MAX. That means that every single m effer in there is a violant, repeat offender. You want to give these guys better food? better conditions? comfy beds? Fine. Do you know how many billions of California tax dollars are dumped on these guys? Lets do the math shall we?

According to the California Department of Justice it costs 47,000 DOLLARS to take care of each inmate annually. there are currently 166,556 inmates at any given time in CA, all though the number is steadily going up thanks to illegals but that's a horse of a different color. 47,000 X 166,556 = 7,828,132,000 . In a state that is nearly 30 billion in the red and taxes are getting higher, that's a bad thing.

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Originally posted by Swills

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1)You know, it's amazing you're a member of this conspiracy website. You must read daily on here the corruption, police brutality, unjust wars, political scandals, etc,... so with all of this you really think the majority of the population in these over crowded prisons belong there because corrupt lawman and officials said so?

2)You do know that the war on drugs help put a lot of these people away. A war I am calling a complete failure from day 1, and as conspiracies goes, it's a lot deeper than that.

3)So let these people out now. It's time we start taking care of the world and each other because presently we are doing a crappy job and some attitudes stink around here


I added the numbers to make this really easy.

1) I love this conspiracy web site. Ignorance can be changed, but there's no helping stupidity.

2) It's amazing how drugs and violence go hand in hand I guess. There are many conspiracies surrounding drugs, some of which I am even pretty well read in. However that has little to do with prisoners voluntarily starving themselves.

3) Please explain to me why it would be a good idea to let a prison system with the 10th highest ranking for violent offenders and repeat offenders free to the public again? In my mind that's a bad idea.



posted on Jul, 14 2011 @ 02:49 AM
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i do get you man i really do but i wasnt in county i was in state at 18 years old and if it wasn't for my family i would probably be back right now hell the want to violate me and send me back to prison right now just because i cant find a job if it were not for the fact of me going to school and my parents helping me with my fines i would probably be out robbing people for fear of going back to such a horrible place and it wasn't a max Thank god for what i have because alot of the people in pelican didn't have the family the money the schooling that i did you are the product of your environment after all and on the drugs thing ya a lot of drugs can be bad for you but ive never heard a case of pot killing somebody alot of my straight As honors classes friends smoked it and there doing good themselves
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posted on Jul, 14 2011 @ 04:04 AM
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Maybe if they didn't overpay so many public servants, they could get it right.

California pays more than 1,400 workers in excess of $200,000


Last year, a prison doctor collected $777,423 and a dentist got $599,403.


Wonder why prison heath care cost so much, but it's care is like a third world country?

Just who are the real criminals that should be behind bars? That's right - over paid public servants.
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posted on Jul, 14 2011 @ 04:18 AM
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and to you buddy your right but for conditions to be like that in a country thats so hell bent on human rights like amerika you think they wouldnt put people in as bad a place as mexico whos human rights policys aren't that great and its funny some of the prisoners in pelican are there for selling pot such a bad crime that kills so many people o really pot does such bad things as help with sickness from chemotherapy add adhd and depression with out all the bad effects wouldnt it be better for your kids to smoke pot than to be put on pure methamphetamine's really thats all aderall is


Haha! Doing time at Pelican Bay for selling pot?

Pelican Bay is where they send the real a***oles.....the heavy duty gang-bangers, the prisoners who have been assaultive to other inmates or staff. They are the cream of the crop. If they're in solitary confinement for 22-hours a day, they've worked hard to get there. They are a danger....high risk inmates.

All I can say is at least they are using hunger strikes to get their point across, as opposed to prison riots.



posted on Jul, 14 2011 @ 04:41 AM
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so true but some of those guys became what they were because of the system starting out selling drugs get picked up and run ten somewere else come out a beast and end up at pelican its the way of the prisons get mean or get #ed




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