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You say you are not a birther but you are making the same dumb questions and asking for an unreasonably high standard that you didn’t and don’t require of any other elected public official.
Originally posted by gentledissident
I can't see the seal in the pic. Is it something that could have been made with a $50.00 embossing machine?
What? How have I violated the scientific method? I'm new to this whole birther thing. I think asking questions is the way to get up to speed. Why would you want to call my questions dumb? I'm reminded of when I 1st started to ask about 911 on other forums before I found ATS. I was called UnAmerican and an anti-semite.
Originally posted by aptness dumb
I'm not putting anything past the NWO.
Originally posted by aptness Your question implies all the media outlets that confirmed Obama’s certificate has a seal are lying and complicit in the cover-up that requires the participation of the Department of Health of Hawaii under both Republican and Democratic governors, and the intelligence agencies that do the background checks before Presidents are given sensitive information and the nuclear codes are also part of the conspiracy or were fooled by a forged certificate “made with a $50.00 embossing machine.”
Originally posted by UcDat
plenty of proof heres another great vid for those not afraid of the truth let the obamatards try and slander taitz if any of them had half the heart and brains she did the world would be a better place.
The scientific method also encompasses using things like logic and previously known facts, all of which are absent of all birther conspiracy theories.
Originally posted by gentledissident
How have I violated the scientific method? I'm new to this whole birther thing.
Oh, great...
I'm not putting anything past the NWO.
Originally posted by gentledissident
I'm not putting anything past the NWO.
Originally posted by gentledissident
reply to post by aptness
I have to work through every piece of evidence and every step. I cannot take anything government, religion, or business says as fact just becasue they said it. I see these organizations appear to laugh at how willing we are to buy anything they are selling. I want to be absolutely sure what they are saying is the truth. Having said that, my jury is always out.
See you at Bohemian Grove.edit on 3-7-2011 by gentledissident because: (no reason given)
What video is it that I believe? I'm only sorting through evidence. Are we not detectives here at ATS?
Originally posted by incrediblelousminds you believe silly, random youtube videos from known hoaxsters?
Originally posted by wardk28
I for one believe the BC is forged not because he wasn't born here but he frauded the government out of money for college. He claimed to be a foreign student so he could get tuition. Thats why his records were sealed.
This makes absolutely no sense. If he ‘frauded’ the government by “claiming to be a foreign student so he could get tuition” then to keep up with that lie the certificate would have to say he wasn’t born in the United States.
Originally posted by wardk28
I for one believe the BC is forged not because he wasn't born here but he frauded the government out of money for college. He claimed to be a foreign student so he could get tuition.
This tells me you are not very informed about this, and you’re just repeating the same old debunked birther lies. Which helps explain why you believe the aforementioned absurd theory.
Thats why his records were sealed.
Originally posted by gentledissident
What video is it that I believe? I'm only sorting through evidence. Are we not detectives here at ATS?
Originally posted by incrediblelousminds you believe silly, random youtube videos from known hoaxsters?
I cannot see where I've even implied that I feel that way. I was just looking for something to show me either way. I still don't know.
Originally posted by incrediblelousminds If you were just 'sorting through evidence', you wouldn't be approaching the issue with a foregone conclusion that his BC is a fraud.
That's a plausible theory. I hope someone doesn't say it's dumb.
Originally posted by incrediblelousmindsI tend to think that this is an issue actually perpetuated by the DNC to make anyone with, you know, reality-based criticisms of the POTUS (national security, GMO's, tax breaks for the wealthy, the list goes on and on). Of course, distracting people from SUBSTANCE helps both parties because it makes sure that anyone critical of Oabam is associated with this substance-less nonsense. And it would appear it is working.
Originally posted by aptness
You say you are not a birther but you are making the same dumb questions and asking for an unreasonably high standard that you didn’t and don’t require of any other elected public official.
Originally posted by gentledissident
I can't see the seal in the pic. Is it something that could have been made with a $50.00 embossing machine?
Your question implies all the media outlets that confirmed Obama’s certificate has a seal are lying and complicit in the cover-up that requires the participation of the Department of Health of Hawaii under both Republican and Democratic governors, and the intelligence agencies that do the background checks before Presidents are given sensitive information and the nuclear codes are also part of the conspiracy or were fooled by a forged certificate “made with a $50.00 embossing machine.”
Did you confirm Bush’s birth certificate had a seal? No. And if the Department of Health of Connecticut said they had Bush’s original certificate, and they vouched for the authenticity of the certificate that Bush released had he been asked to, I bet that would be enough for you and any other birther.